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Forest sell off petition (1 Viewer)
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Dialyt
The Definitive Binocular
I signed the petition because I think the forests should remain in public hands.
It is important that forests pay their way, and they can do this through mainly timber production, but also tourism and recreation.
But to sell them off just to pay off a few debts and expect volunteers to do what the government is doing is ridiculous. The sell off will probably result in less access and less maintenance of the forests.
I hesitated to sign this earlier in the year because I thought it was too 'tree huggy' - a view which is unrealistic and an agenda I would not be willing to support. I think it is very important that we don't fall into a tree-hugging mentality, whereby one would never cut down a tree or approve the same, even as one sits on a nice wooden chair.
It is important that forests pay their way, and they can do this through mainly timber production, but also tourism and recreation.
But to sell them off just to pay off a few debts and expect volunteers to do what the government is doing is ridiculous. The sell off will probably result in less access and less maintenance of the forests.
I hesitated to sign this earlier in the year because I thought it was too 'tree huggy' - a view which is unrealistic and an agenda I would not be willing to support. I think it is very important that we don't fall into a tree-hugging mentality, whereby one would never cut down a tree or approve the same, even as one sits on a nice wooden chair.
John B (not the sloop)
Don't blame me I didn't vote for 'em
This ain't over until the lease agreements/deeds of sale are signed, so please keep up the pressure.....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12377215
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12377215
MJB
Well-known member
Totally agree! This government needs to keep its eye on the big picture and not on (relatively speaking) such small beer as this, especially when so many people across the political divide have come together on it. People from all walks of life can ID dogma when they see it! What a waste of government effort when there are economic issues that could be damaging to every family in the land for decades...
MJB
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Vectis Birder
Itchy feet
Our local MP, Andrew Turner (Con) did as well. I've sent him an email via the form on the 38 Degrees site but I don't expect any reply. If I get a reply it will probably be a fob-off.
The only time Mr Turner went against his party's line is when he thought that he'd lose half his constituents (Government plan to split the Isle of Wight into two constituencies with one linked to Southampton, Portsmouth or the New Forest).
black kite 1964
Well-known member
"Spelman continues her patronising and offensive tactics on the Politics Show just now. None of us who oppose the proposals have read the consultation and are just reacting to headlines which claim the New Forest will be turned into golf courses."
More Golf Courses - What a great idea!!!!!! We are all doomed!!!
At least I did not vote for this "progressive lot" from Eton and Westminister secondary moderns!!
More Golf Courses - What a great idea!!!!!! We are all doomed!!!
At least I did not vote for this "progressive lot" from Eton and Westminister secondary moderns!!
ColonelBlimp
What time is bird?
Standard bullshit reply from my MP, my reply pointing out that much of what he was saying didn't make any sense hasn't got a response, no surprises there.
PS he voted for it
PS he voted for it
Vectis Birder
Itchy feet
turkish van
Number 1 celebrity badger
There is a map of local campaigns here, also gives a way of connecting with local people if you want to start up your own campaign. Nice to see quite a few dotted around but there can't be too many!
The sniper
Well-known member
While I understand everyones anger about this,constantly slagging off the government is hardly going to change anything or stop any forests being sold off
Tommy
Well-known member
Good news, sell off on hold. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12428814
chris butterworth
aka The Person Named Above
Only "some forests" though. Anyone want to bet on those being The New Forest and The Forest of Dean???????? Anything north of the home counties will be sold for "conservation" ( read firewood! ) I'm in Japan at the moment and, as a country, it's been going through hard times since before the bankers were found out, neither does it have the best reputation in the world for it's support for conservation, but no-one here has even thought of selling off the forests / national parks ( They'll be next if we don't slap the MP's down right now ).
Chris
Chris
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MJB
Well-known member
Good news only in the sense that the government will be trying to buy off some sections of protest (not my words, but of the BBC News24 correspondent at 1250 today) and so 'sell-off on hold' merely marks the point where the protest should aim to redouble. To provide some political context, the government has just lost a court case on its decision to scrap the repairs and replacement of a large number of schools; its actions have been declared illegal. The sheer consistency of the idiocy of their 'damn the torpedoes' high-speed efforts to change policies without bothering to find out what is really needed reeks of dogma.
The current forestry system ain't broke, so don't fix it! This message has to get through, and when it does, perhaps some of the other dopey schemes can be stopped, too, so that the real problems of national debt can get all the attention they need.
MJB
PS I would say that on most issues in my life, I would think I am slightly right of centre. I just hate the elevation of assertion above evidence and truth.
Upland Birder
Birding On The Edge
MJB
It was not just illegal but also an abuse of power......and thats just it, this Coalition represents an abuse of power which rides roughshod over what the people of the Uk want. However, people power has to boot the Coalition in to the long grass with all its silly ideas.
Actually, I think there is a silly ideas department somewhere in Whitehall. You can imagine a Monty Python scetch in relation to this or even a scene from Spitting Images.
The forest and woodlands of the Churnet Valley near where I live are still at risk and its all over the front of our local papers. We can't let this one rest.
Dean:t:
It was not just illegal but also an abuse of power......and thats just it, this Coalition represents an abuse of power which rides roughshod over what the people of the Uk want. However, people power has to boot the Coalition in to the long grass with all its silly ideas.
Actually, I think there is a silly ideas department somewhere in Whitehall. You can imagine a Monty Python scetch in relation to this or even a scene from Spitting Images.
The forest and woodlands of the Churnet Valley near where I live are still at risk and its all over the front of our local papers. We can't let this one rest.
Dean:t:
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MJB
Well-known member
Upland Birder
Birding On The Edge
MJB
Its been a hard week:eek!: but hey I have managed to do an edit:-O
Dean:t:
Its been a hard week:eek!: but hey I have managed to do an edit:-O
Dean:t:
auchinbowie
Well-known member
I signed the Woodland Trust petition in January, but have some reservations on the issue. I is not as simplistic as many comments have suggested. SOME of the sites have significant conservation value today or can reasonably be developed to provide valuable habitat. Other sites would incur greater expense in subsidies than they their present maintenance cost with the Forestry Commission. These should all be retained in public ownership.
About half the acreage, however, has little wildlife value and could be managed equally or more effectively in private ownership. I can see no logical reason to oppose the sell off of these sites, providing public access rights are secured. If the legislation is made selective (instead of potentially all inclusive) and necessary safeguards are included, I for one would rescind my objection.
About half the acreage, however, has little wildlife value and could be managed equally or more effectively in private ownership. I can see no logical reason to oppose the sell off of these sites, providing public access rights are secured. If the legislation is made selective (instead of potentially all inclusive) and necessary safeguards are included, I for one would rescind my objection.
