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Old Sunday 17th November 2019, 19:47   #1
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3 different birds, the first bird which I have no idea and the other two of which I think are 2nd winter YL Gulls.
Any help on ID/confirmation would be greatly appreciated.

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Old Sunday 17th November 2019, 19:49   #2
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Old Sunday 17th November 2019, 19:52   #3
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Old Sunday 17th November 2019, 20:25   #4
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Think the first is herring gull and birds 2 and 3 do give the feel of YLG for me. Dark around eyes, heavy bill. Third bird is better candidate YLG and think one shot indicates large feet as another feature supporting this ID.
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Old Sunday 17th November 2019, 21:54   #5
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all three birds look to be 2nd winter herring gulls. 3rd is the best candidate for mich but still, such advanced herring gull exists and pattern is not convincing. edit: 3 might be a weird caspian gull or a hybrid.
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Old Sunday 17th November 2019, 22:12   #6
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Thanks Lou. Is such a dark greater covert pattern as in bird 2 and 3 normal for Herring Gull ? I can’t recall seeing this before.
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