Cuckoo sp. Chiang Dao, N Thailand (1 Viewer)

Brian Stone

A Stone chatting

• Mar 28, 2020

• #1

Any thoughts on this cuckoo please? Taken by a friend today.

 

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Jean FRANCOIS

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• Mar 28, 2020

• #2

Cuculus canorus/saturatus/optatus group, 2th cy
Jean

 

PYRTLE

Old Berkshire Boy

• Mar 28, 2020

• #3

Jean FRANCOIS said:

Cuculus canorus/saturatus/optatus group, 2th cy
Jean

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Can you uncode for me please.

 

Larry Sweetland

Formerly 'Larry Wheatland'

• Mar 28, 2020

• #4

PYRTLE said:

Can you uncode for me please.

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He's suggesting it's either Common Cuckoo or one of the splits if Oriental Ciuckoo

 

PYRTLE

Old Berkshire Boy

• Mar 28, 2020

• #5

I got that part, but dont understand the 2th cy in bold....was it meant to be 2nd calendar year?

 

Andy Adcock

Worst person on Birdforum

• Mar 28, 2020

• #6

PYRTLE said:

I got that part, but dont understand the 2th cy in bold....was it meant to be 2nd calendar year?

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That would be my guess.

 

Jean FRANCOIS

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• Mar 28, 2020

• #7

PYRTLE said:

I got that part, but dont understand the 2th cy in bold....was it meant to be 2nd calendar year?

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Sorry.
For once, I didn't use online translation. :smoke:
Jean

 

Brian Stone

A Stone chatting

• Mar 29, 2020

• #8

Thanks. So the consensus is that this can't be identified?

 

Andy Adcock

Worst person on Birdforum

• Mar 29, 2020

• #9

Eurasian Cuckoo for me, adult, hepatic, female.

 

James Eaton

Trent Valley Crew

• Mar 29, 2020

• #10

Brian Stone said:

Thanks. So the consensus is that this can't be identified?

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Yep. In this plumage impossible unless in the hand, or vocalising.

James

 

Andy Adcock

Worst person on Birdforum

• Mar 29, 2020

• #11

James Eaton said:

Yep. In this plumage impossible unless in the hand, or vocalising.

James

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Width of barring is a feature which eliminates some possibilities?

 

Brian Stone

A Stone chatting

• Mar 29, 2020

• #12

I guess it will remain unidentified. He has got this photo today if it helps.

 

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Grahame Walbridge

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• Mar 29, 2020

• #13

Brian, the heavily barred rump and lower back should eliminate conorus so hepatic female saturatus/optatus in the absence of vocalisations. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/283213828_Common_and_Oriental_cuckoos_photo_guide

Grahame

 

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Brian Stone

A Stone chatting

• Mar 29, 2020

• #14

Grahame Walbridge said:

Brian, the heavily barred rump and lower back should eliminate conorus so hepatic female saturatus/optatus in the absence of vocalisations. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/283213828_Common_and_Oriental_cuckoos_photo_guide

Grahame

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Thanks. And opatus is rare/unreported from that region?

 

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Grahame Walbridge

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• Mar 29, 2020

• #15

Brian Stone said:

Thanks. And opatus is rare/unreported from that region?

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No confirmed records as it stands in Thailand Brian which does not mean that they have not been overlooked in the past given the difficulty in separation. The few live birds that have been handled on Koh Man Nai (Mar) have all been Himalayan.

Grahame

 

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jalid

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• Mar 29, 2020

• #16

One small addition. This bird probably cannot be aged. It is mostly in fresh plumage, so already completing the winter moult. The outermost visible primary seems to be of older generation, but not much can be seen of it. There may well be some other old feathers too, like secondaries, which are not visible here.