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Short-toed Larks - Greater vs Lesser (Europe)

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Old Thursday 7th May 2020, 17:37   #1
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Short-toed Larks - Greater vs Lesser (Europe)

Having previously amused myself with drawing & writing a short guide to Thekla's vs Crested Lark ID I've gone back to drawing board (literally) and had a go at illustrating short-toed larks. Unlike last time I've yet to compose a table to go with it which I hope to do anon ....
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John, it looks really nice from what I can see.
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Nice! And useful!
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Very good, I still refer to your first effort, I wish I had a talent, apart from upsetting people
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not only useful but also beautiful
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Looks fantastic, good concise text with lovely clear illustrations. The start of another career?

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Great! A big "Thank you" from me too! One of the posts (like this one https://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=380984), that makes birdforum a very good addition to any field-guide!
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next step will be to make a PDF with the full size image available ...

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Superb John, thank you very much...
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next step will be to make a PDF with the full size image available ...

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Seconded, that would be very helpful.
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Yes very nice. Meanwhile, perhaps post to one of the Opus pages, with a link to it from the other?

[Oh and if you could just add in all the asian short-toed thingys too...]
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next step will be to make a PDF with the full size image available ...

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Thanks again for everyone's kind words. I'll be drafting my article on the two for the ABS magazine anon & hope to do something similar to my Thekla's vs Crested Lark table of differences. When I do so I should be able to put together a pdf .....

Thinking of tackling Phylsocs next if I'm brave enough ....
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Yes very nice. Meanwhile, perhaps post to one of the Opus pages, with a link to it from the other?

[Oh and if you could just add in all the asian short-toed thingys too...]
...and remember there's a new paper out on the systematics of the Asian taxa...!
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Short-toed Larks PDF

I've re-used my drawings, added ID & other details in tabular form and, as requested, saved it as a pdf. (Although I'm not sure it's inevitable complexity makes it more helpful than the simpler original!) I'll be posting this & other info on my blog anon. The much reduced version of the pdf is attached below. I'm afraid anything beyond European birds is way beyond my knowledge, expertise & experience! I suspect that there's a glitch (or two) lurking in the pdf (I'm rubbish at proof reading my own work) so any feedback would be useful.
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