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Old Tuesday 12th May 2020, 20:39   #1
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Another Nebraska Dowitcher dilemma

Today in Lancaster county. I've put the pictures in eBird. We are now in the one week window when short billed could be seen. Click photos there to get the bigger picture.



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Old Tuesday 12th May 2020, 21:01   #2
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I think you have both species in the photos. The Long-billed are the ones with well defined white scapular tips.
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I think you have both species in the photos. The Long-billed are the ones with well defined white scapular tips.
I think they are all Long-billed, which one looks like Short-billed?
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The ones with the fluffy pink on bottom with little dots, no bars.
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I think they are all Long-billed, which one looks like Short-billed?
Interesting you say that: I was about to [...fools rush in...] suggest the opposite. What's your thinking?
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Tom would see both of them routinely. We get one subspecies of shortbilled but only 1-2 weeks. The rest of the fall and spring is long billed.
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Interesting you say that: I was about to [...fools rush in...] suggest the opposite. What's your thinking?
They have spotted, not barred, under tail coverts which is definitive of Long-billed Dowitchers. Also the body and head shape is unanimously in favor of that species from all birds that present a profile that is usable for ID purposes. A lot of them don’t show a profile that is usable in determining species here and for those we have to turn to plumage. Some are at various stages of molt but they all show the same plumage in the flight feathers. The only one I am not sure about is the one in the top right photo, bottom left bird with the head completely in the water and it shows white under the tail. The flight feathers are in delayed molt compared to the others and what cannot be seen due to the profile of the bird (head in water and side on view) obscures any clinching ID points, but nothing that can be seen points towards short-billed. The alternate feathers that have molted in look identical to those around it.
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Purely out of inrerest, why does what appears to be Turkish, appear all over the page?
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