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Old Tuesday 14th December 2010, 19:48   #1
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2 X TCs Old V New

Has anyone upgraded their 2 x TC from mark 2 to mark 3 and, if so, could give an opinion on any improvement in IQ? Thanks Dave
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Old Tuesday 14th December 2010, 21:43   #2
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Still waiting to receive my tc20e-III but have owned and sold two mk2's and couldn't get on with them even when used on a 70-200/2.8 and tried on a 300/2.8vr

From what I've seen and read the mk3 is leaps and bounds ahead of the mk2
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Old Wednesday 15th December 2010, 08:00   #3
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There are a lot of us waiting to be convinced about the Mk111 2.0TC ! However, unless you can buy one we will be along time waiting to find out !
I tried the 2.0TC Mk11 and wasn't impressed at all, in fact I tend to avoid using my 1.7TCMK11 much of the time too but I am lucky in that I have a 500mm and 1.4TC that gives me 700mm and excellent IQ.
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Old Thursday 16th December 2010, 19:50   #4
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Hi Steve, what problems did you encounter with Mk2? Be bery interested to see what you think of new one when you get it. Dave
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Old Thursday 16th December 2010, 20:02   #5
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Hi, I didn't have mikiix2 but do have a mkiii x2 and a mkii x1.4.
The mark iii x2 gives as good IQ as the 1.4.
I generally leave it on my 300mm f2.8 unless am deliberately after BIF.
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Old Thursday 16th December 2010, 20:04   #6
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Here's a shot taken on a fairly dark morning at ISO1000 with a new 2.0 TC MkIII attached to my F2.8 300mm non VR: hand held but resting on a railing. It isn't cropped and there's minimal processing. I got the Mk III so I could get a 600mm F5.6 for distant record shots and I'm very much still a beginner but I have to say if you take your time and you know what you're doing I imagine you could get some very good shots with it. I've used it at ISO3200 on a tripod and had some shots that are more than good enough for my purposes.

Rioja - I think some of your shots on NWB are fantastic so if you ever want t try a Mk III let me know and I'll let you know when I'm going to NW Wales for a trip!
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Hi, I didn't have mikiix2 but do have a mkiii x2 and a mkii x1.4.
The mark iii x2 gives as good IQ as the 1.4.
I generally leave it on my 300mm f2.8 unless am deliberately after BIF.
Hope this helps,
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Praise indeed ! I'm interested !
It is frustrating having watched the results Canon users have been getting with the 300f2.8 and 2.0TC, it's time Nikon matched them !
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Old Friday 17th December 2010, 07:47   #8
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Here's a shot taken on a fairly dark morning at ISO1000 with a new 2.0 TC MkIII attached to my F2.8 300mm non VR: hand held but resting on a railing. It isn't cropped and there's minimal processing. I got the Mk III so I could get a 600mm F5.6 for distant record shots and I'm very much still a beginner but I have to say if you take your time and you know what you're doing I imagine you could get some very good shots with it. I've used it at ISO3200 on a tripod and had some shots that are more than good enough for my purposes.

Rioja - I think some of your shots on NWB are fantastic so if you ever want t try a Mk III let me know and I'll let you know when I'm going to NW Wales for a trip!
You are very kind, I too am still very much a novice but getting there slowly through trial and error ! I'm always happy to meet up, let me know if and when you are around and we'll see if we can arrange something.cheers Dave .
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Old Saturday 18th December 2010, 22:56   #9
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I bought one a week ago. I presume you mean the Nikon AF-S Teleconverter TC-20E III. I have only taken a few shot so far, but it seems to be sharp. I'll try to take some pics with it on the Nikkor 70-200 2.8 VR II.

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Old Monday 20th December 2010, 05:24   #10
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I've been shooting with the 300/2.8 AFS VR and the Nikon 1.4x,17x and new 2.0 111.
I've been impressed with it. Here are a few from this week.
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Old Monday 20th December 2010, 08:06   #11
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I've been shooting with the 300/2.8 AFS VR and the Nikon 1.4x,17x and new 2.0 111.
I've been impressed with it. Here are a few from this week.
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The shots are nice Neil but with that body and lens I would want and expect better. Personally for me there isn't enough detail and the extra sharpening won't bring it back.That has to be down to the 2.0 TC. compared to a 1.4.
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Old Monday 20th December 2010, 17:22   #12
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The shots are nice Neil but with that body and lens I would want and expect better. Personally for me there isn't enough detail and the extra sharpening won't bring it back.That has to be down to the 2.0 TC. compared to a 1.4.
I agree it's not as good as the 1.4x for detail and AF's a little slower too. These images though are not taken in sunlight ( an average iso around 2500 ) but in cloudy , overhead shade which is normal winter light here.
I'll see if got similar shots with 2.0 and 1.4x and crop to same size and compare.
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Old Monday 20th December 2010, 19:59   #13
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I'm not so sure

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I agree it's not as good as the 1.4x for detail and AF's a little slower too. These images though are not taken in sunlight ( an average iso around 2500 ) but in cloudy , overhead shade which is normal winter light here.
I'll see if got similar shots with 2.0 and 1.4x and crop to same size and compare.
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I'm not so sure. I don't think I am loosing any detail over the 1.4TC with the 2x Eiii.
Here's a snow Bunting at 600mm. 300mm f2.8 and 2x Eiii TC.
What do you think. Warning large file
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Old Monday 20th December 2010, 20:02   #14
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sorry attachment didn't hold. try again

reached limit on filesize. Reduced images do not show fine feather detail that original does. Sorry
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Old Monday 20th December 2010, 20:09   #15
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OK here's a small 100% crop

try again. Cheers Rich
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Old Tuesday 4th January 2011, 16:40   #16
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D700 with 70-200 / TCx2 III

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I don't own the V2 version so I cannot comment on comparison but I'm very happy with its performance on a zoom let alone a prime.

Still saving up for a 600mm f4 ^^
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Old Monday 17th January 2011, 19:22   #17
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I picked up one of the new 2x III tele's for my recently completed Thailand trip and wasn't all that impressed to tell you the truth.
Soft even with subjects closer than "long range" with my D300S and 500 f4 AFS I.
It's certainly not going to replace my trusty 1.4x II but i will continue to test it in the field since i paid so much money for it.
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Old Monday 17th January 2011, 19:34   #18
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For anyone desperate to get their hands on one, Amazon are advertising 1 in stock. Price 510 plus 10 delivery. I'm not that bothered for sure !
Out of interest how much did one cost in Thailand ?
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I picked up one of the new 2x III tele's for my recently completed Thailand trip and wasn't all that impressed to tell you the truth.
Soft even with subjects closer than "long range" with my D300S and 500 f4 AFS I.
It's certainly not going to replace my trusty 1.4x II but i will continue to test it in the field since i paid so much money for it.
It's not really designed to be used with an f4 lens. It's for the 300/2.8 and 400/2.8. Although it will AF slowly with the 500/4 in good light. I'm going out today with it and the 500/4 AFS VR so will what it can do.
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Old Monday 17th January 2011, 21:37   #20
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For anyone desperate to get their hands on one, Amazon are advertising 1 in stock. Price 510 plus 10 delivery. I'm not that bothered for sure !
Out of interest how much did one cost in Thailand ?
I picked mine up in Canada before i left, around $500 CAN after taxes.

It was an impulse buy and it looks like i didn't do enough research before hand, according to Neil's useful information. oh well.
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I took the TC 20E 111 to the woods to photograph thrushes in low light. The AF works ok on stationary objects in but as soon as the birds move about it starts hunting and sometimes won't focus again if the subject keeps moving. I missed a few shots this way. There may be AF settings I could try to improve the situation . I'll experiment more tomorrow. In bright sunlight the AF should be better.
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Nice pics Neil,

Was that shot off a tripod?? WOW 1000mm @ f8. Thats hectic and the quality is more than exceptable. Wonder how that newTC would perform on my old 400f2.8??

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Nice pics Neil,

Was that shot off a tripod?? WOW 1000mm @ f8. Thats hectic and the quality is more than exceptable. Wonder how that newTC would perform on my old 400f2.8??

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I was using a light weight tripod which I'm going to upgrade tomorrow for more stable video.
It should do a good job on the 400/2.8 with reasonable AF. I'm thinking of either a 400/2.8 or 600/4 myself for my birthday next month.
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Here is a shot (from reasonable range - 30 feet +/-), while set up in a blind in Thailand.
lens was tripod mounted and i used a remote shutter, not bad but not great.
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lens was tripod mounted and i used a remote shutter, not bad but not great.
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