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Birds from Yue Yang, Hunan Province, China, Nov. 21, 2019 (Part II)

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Old Wednesday 4th December 2019, 03:07   #1
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Birds from Yue Yang, Hunan Province, China, Nov. 21, 2019 (Part II)

Continuing with my previous thread, these were taken on the same day. My thoughts:

1. not sure
2. not sure (these must be easy to identify, but I am still looking)
3. a leaf warbler, but which one? Is it possible to nail down with this picture?
4. a flock of starlings? Which one?

What do you think?

Thanks in advance,
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No. 1 could be Rufous-capped Babbler.

No.2 is Collared Finchbill.

I think we'll need more images of no.3 if you have any, but the crown-stripe, proportions and pale edges to the tertials suggest one of the Pallas's Leaf Warbler group, but I don't think it's Pallas's. Forrest's is on the checklist for Hunan province but I know almost nothing about this species.

The Starlings are thin-billed and have a white wingbar - Red-billed?
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1. Agree with Andy on Rufous-capped Babbler

2. Agree with Collared Finchbill

3. One of the Pallas's LW group, for the reasons given above. For me, the yellow supercilium is suggestive of Pallas's and I don't see why it wouldn't be that species. I'm not sure of the status of forresti (Sichuan LW) in Hunan but I think it may be pretty rare there (I don't think I've seen it on the couple of trips I've had, but that doesn't mean too much). The habitat may be useful - Pallas's could probably turn up more or less anywhere in winter but in my experience Sichuan LW is rarely seen away from forest sites in the mountains. Pallas's is more likely at Yue Yang.

4. Red-billed Starlings. The white patch in the primaries is very distinctive and is a different shape from the white in the wings of mynas, plus the pale bodies rule out mynas. There are a couple of birds where the white patch isn't visible, but I think that's because of the position of the wing rather than because they are another species.
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Thanks for the discussions. Unfortunately this is the only usable picture I have of the warbler.
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