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Old Sunday 1st December 2019, 09:22   #1
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Question about the Cornell Lab

We have had an invasion of Red Crossbills in my area (California) this fall and I am trying to take the opportunity to finally learn and try to record some of the call types. The Cornell Lab offers software (Raven Lite) for free to analyze calls, and I tried to obtain it. I submitted their online form which promised to email me the software, but I never got it or any response from them. I sent an email asking them about it and did not get a response to that either. Does anyone know what is going on there? Had a similar experience? Have any suggestions? Yes, I did check my junk mail box.

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ebirds "Raven" project was a new one for me and looks more oriented towards encouraging researchers obtaining and submitting field audio recordings. However if you go to the ebird home page and click on "Explore" and then on "Search Photos and Sound", you are directed to the media catalog. There you can enter the species you are interested in and by clicking on "More Filters" you can choose what media you want displayed and hence can limit it to audio only if you want. Unfortunately it appears that they don't have any audio recordings on Red Crossbill. That does mean that if you can obtain any audio of RC they would be delighted to have you submit them in a regular ebird report.
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Owen, I'm not sure what filters you may have had set or what species you searched for, but there are over 6,000 audio recordings of Common (=Red) Crossbill in eBird (https://ebird.org/media/catalog?taxo...%20curvirostra)
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We have had an invasion of Red Crossbills in my area (California) this fall and I am trying to take the opportunity to finally learn and try to record some of the call types. The Cornell Lab offers software (Raven Lite) for free to analyze calls, and I tried to obtain it. I submitted their online form which promised to email me the software, but I never got it or any response from them. I sent an email asking them about it and did not get a response to that either. Does anyone know what is going on there? Had a similar experience? Have any suggestions? Yes, I did check my junk mail box.

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I would repeat the process of going through the checkout.

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Old Tuesday 3rd December 2019, 01:08   #5
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Thanks Owen; I had hoped to have the call type identified before submitting to ebird, but that either takes a sharper ear than mine or the spectrographic analysis I had hoped to do with the Raven software.

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Thanks Niels; I have tried that with no success.

Further mystery: I was encouraged in this effort a few days ago reading this site: https://ebird.org/news/crossbills-of...-red-crossbill, but trying to reach the site now give me an "Oops! Page not found" message.
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Try putting the recording up on the ID Forum here on birdforum. Most people are submitting photos, but I have seen successful IDs from sound recordings also.
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Plenty of alternatives mentioned in this thread: https://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=71979

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I have been in contact with someone from Cornell. They recommend using this link for contact: http://ravensoundsoftware.com/request-support/

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Alright, now I feel stupid as I should have thought to check this first. Go to the Opus link here at birdforum it's in the top left corner of this (or any other) page. Then enter Red Crossbill in the search. At the bottom of the listing is a vocalization for the RC.
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