Mark, Dosn't look like the heat has got to you mate,but it certainly got me. Very interesting gull,looks like i jumped in too quick with SBG. I hope it is proved to be BHG as would be good for AJ, being a first. Sorry if this is confusing to people, i havn't learnt to "quote" others posts yet!..... P.
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Unknown gull - Bahrain (1 Viewer)
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Mark Andrews
Howard King
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rockfowl
Mark Andrews
Hi Folks
Wing pattern is Slender-billed first winter > first summer or even Black-headed, though the new outer secondaries suggest the latter ?, a delayed moult. Image 2, structure still looks ok for BHG but the bill here and in further shots look slimmer than the original image. Have an idea why the eye looks so large and dark, or other features mentioned before.. maybe its sick ..
But there's no getting away from that wing pattern....
Interesting to hear what others suggest.
Mark
Never trust these 'ugly moulters' - http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=116754
Wing pattern is Slender-billed first winter > first summer or even Black-headed, though the new outer secondaries suggest the latter ?, a delayed moult. Image 2, structure still looks ok for BHG but the bill here and in further shots look slimmer than the original image. Have an idea why the eye looks so large and dark, or other features mentioned before.. maybe its sick ..
But there's no getting away from that wing pattern....
Interesting to hear what others suggest.
Mark
Never trust these 'ugly moulters' - http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=116754
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Sorry but my post was as usually written too fastly and in English...as you may ubnderstand reading well, I written there was far too white on the webs of primaries for any brown and grey headed gull, then I concluded that it was a brown headed...but was a mis-writing (or tiping) for Black headed (a lapsus calami as the Black headed is actually brown indeed :-8....
In fact I was saing that even if odd and hugly, was a Black headed larus ridibundus, looking similar to the rare Grey and BROWN headed but being NOT
Larus genei not for sure.... P10 and P9 with too much black on inner web, wrong alula and PC pattern, wrong dark area on head (at most a bit of darkish line over nape usually but mostly only darkish ear-spot), too broad and full and short bill fathering on upper mandible, just a bit loger then the feathering on lower mandible, too dark iris and too big, too darkish legs and bill etc.
so, Larus ridibundus in horrible plumage as I meant on the first post I written
In fact I was saing that even if odd and hugly, was a Black headed larus ridibundus, looking similar to the rare Grey and BROWN headed but being NOT
Larus genei not for sure.... P10 and P9 with too much black on inner web, wrong alula and PC pattern, wrong dark area on head (at most a bit of darkish line over nape usually but mostly only darkish ear-spot), too broad and full and short bill fathering on upper mandible, just a bit loger then the feathering on lower mandible, too dark iris and too big, too darkish legs and bill etc.
so, Larus ridibundus in horrible plumage as I meant on the first post I written
Howard King
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macrourus
Just to confirm - you are saying its a funny looking Black Headed Gull -
Just to confirm - you are saying its a funny looking Black Headed Gull -
Howard King
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I Must Stop Betting On The Wrong Horses Too
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Hybrid might not be a dirty word
ps
Hybrid might not be a dirty word
Howard King
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We enjoyed ourselves - the bird incidentally was quite active - however the water is about 90% sludge and only 10% actual water so.... mind you its full of other species that seem to be thriving.
lou salomon
the birdonist
hahaha!
so cristian was right from the begining...
this is definitely a black-headed gull. actually it should have been the only option with that bill shape/colour and the white outer wing. sorry for having been misleading here. it is no hybrid!
1st summer gulls are among the 'worst' chapter in larid ID since they have the most worn plumage, - therefore - no need to stop looking at these beasts, mark, and, we all have been betting on wrong horses, howard
cheers,
so cristian was right from the begining...
this is definitely a black-headed gull. actually it should have been the only option with that bill shape/colour and the white outer wing. sorry for having been misleading here. it is no hybrid!
1st summer gulls are among the 'worst' chapter in larid ID since they have the most worn plumage, - therefore - no need to stop looking at these beasts, mark, and, we all have been betting on wrong horses, howard
cheers,
Howard King
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Trying at least - or to put it other way - at least trying - we live to learn and fight another day -
AJDH
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You speak for yourself, you didn't have to drive through all that sludge. The wife's going to have a right job washing it all off. (Good job she doesn't watch this website.) :-O
Just hit the quote button on bottom right and fill in the bit underneath
Thanks Mark. P:smoke:
Cristian Mihai
Cristian Mihai
Agreed!!!
