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Swarovski NL 8x42 - First Impressions

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Old Today, 12:04   #701
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Hi from Italy
This morning, I finally went to the lake to go bird watching. I think I have found the best setting for me. Just two clicks of the eyecups eyepiece and
i have to be slightly detached from the face. In this case I notice the glare, less. I took the Swarovski EL 8.5x42 field pro with me.
My impressions are:
NL Pure is sharper and more contrasted, the seagulls are "really" white, in the EL there is a warmer tone. Lateral chromatism in inferior. The chromatic abberation on the axis is almost irrelevant, almost non-existent, except for some rare moments against the light. In short, I repeat it.The NL PURE gives me the best views. Compared to the "old" EL, I can see more glare, but the overall vision of the NL PURE is unmatched. Maybe I see less of it in the EL because I "wear" it better. With the NL Pure I had to struggle a bit to find the exact setting There is obviously no match for field of views, ergonomics, focus accuracy (excellent snap test) and its lightness (It weighs more than the Zeiss SF but is much better balanced than the EL). Ultimately I would give it a nice 9/10 which would become a 10/10 if they fixed the problem mentioned by many...
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That's good news. I believe you are speaking about the 8x42.
Hi Peter, my NL is a 10x42. I don't know if there is a big difference in glare control between the 8x and 10x NL.
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I don`t think its fair to compare the Genesis 8x33 to an NL8x42 even just trying to make a point, its 1/3rd of the price.

You can never have too much fov I agree, but many other factors are of equal or more importance to many myself included, and frankly 8 deg in an 8x is a sweet spot anyway IMHO.

I find it hard to believe that removing the glare would compromise the view, what`s difficult about blackening the inside efficiently ?

I`v come to expect when I buy Leica I`ll have simply the best available material quality but C/A - when I buy Zeiss I`ll have slightly below par quality control - when I buy Swarovski there`ll probably be glare.

Good to have a choice though.
"I don't think it's fair to compare the Genesis 8x33 to an NL8x42 even just trying to make a point, its 1/3rd of the price."

In your thread on the Kowa Genesis Prominar 8x33 you said the Kowa Genesis Prominar 8x33 could be compared to the alphas and were in the alpha league and I quote.
https://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=389815

"They are Doug, what amazes me is that you have to compare them to binoculars at twice or more the price"

" I guess to summarize, the Kowa may be at the bottom of the Alpha 32 mm league, but I do believe it to be very much in that league rather than the league below, and at the price I find that extraordinary."
For me, and I`ve owned pretty much everything but the Noctivid, and can only compare the 33 Genesis, what is remarkable is IMHO they can be compared to 32 mm SV, UVHD+, Victory Fl and Edg rather than Meostar Cl etc, other people may have a very different opinion of course."

"And that is a real shame, I was using it last evening watching Cuckoos and Restarts and not for one second did I feel I was missing out in relation to my SF."

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"I don't think it's fair to compare the Genesis 8x33 to an NL8x42 even just trying to make a point, its 1/3rd of the price."

In your thread on the Kowa Genesis Prominar 8x33 you said the Kowa Genesis Prominar 8x33 could be compared to the alphas and were in the alpha league and I quote.
https://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=389815

"They are Doug, what amazes me is that you have to compare them to binoculars at twice or more the price"

" I guess to summarize, the Kowa may be at the bottom of the Alpha 32 mm league, but I do believe it to be very much in that league rather than the league below, and at the price I find that extraordinary."
For me, and I`ve owned pretty much everything but the Noctivid, and can only compare the 33 Genesis, what is remarkable is IMHO they can be compared to 32 mm SV, UVHD+, Victory Fl and Edg rather than Meostar Cl etc, other people may have a very different opinion of course."

"And that is a real shame, I was using it last evening watching Cuckoos and Restarts and not for one second did I feel I was missing out in relation to my SF."

Yes, twice the price 32mm Alpha`s, not the latest five years in development 42mm offering.

The Kowa is an old design but its never going to compare directly to any 42mm Alpha.
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Interested in your overall impressions of Zeiss SF 8x32 vs NL 8x42

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Hi from Italy
This morning, I finally went to the lake to go bird watching. I think I have found the best setting for me. Just two clicks of the eyecups eyepiece and
i have to be slightly detached from the face. In this case I notice the glare, less. I took the Swarovski EL 8.5x42 field pro with me.
My impressions are:
NL Pure is sharper and more contrasted, the seagulls are "really" white, in the EL there is a warmer tone. Lateral chromatism in inferior. The chromatic abberation on the axis is almost irrelevant, almost non-existent, except for some rare moments against the light. In short, I repeat it.The NL PURE gives me the best views. Compared to the "old" EL, I can see more glare, but the overall vision of the NL PURE is unmatched. Maybe I see less of it in the EL because I "wear" it better. With the NL Pure I had to struggle a bit to find the exact setting There is obviously no match for field of views, ergonomics, focus accuracy (excellent snap test) and its lightness (It weighs more than the Zeiss SF but is much better balanced than the EL). Ultimately I would give it a nice 9/10 which would become a 10/10 if they fixed the problem mentioned by many...
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Interested in your overall impressions of Zeiss SF 8x32 vs NL 8x42
Piergiovanni said in his unboxing video that he is preparing a comparative review of the NL 8x42, EL 8.5x42, Zeiss SF 8x42 and Leica Noctivid 8x42. I don't think he'll include the SF 8x32 in this comparison for obvious reasons.
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Piergiovanni,

That looks like a nice location for that wide FOV.

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Yes, twice the price 32mm Alpha`s, not the latest five years in development 42mm offering.

The Kowa is an old design but its never going to compare directly to any 42mm Alpha.
"Yes, twice the price 32mm Alpha`s, not the latest five years in development 42 mm offering. The Kowa is an old design but it's never going to compare directly to any 42 mm Alpha."

Especially, probably the best alpha on the planet!
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Has anybody noticed how CLEAR the new NL is? I mean it takes optical clarity to a new level. When I look through it, it is like there is not any glass between me and the bird. I have never seen such a CLEAR binocular.
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