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Sparrowhawk or goshawk? (1 Viewer)

that's a good one:
not huge bodied, rather slender
barred secondaries...
and still a Goshawk, my guess is a younger adult male:
bulging secondaries
inner secondaries (tertials) unbarred
huge feet
densily barred below
 
A second, and last picture, much worse than the first one:

The query was posted in another Spanish forum and there was not an unanymous agreement.

Goshawk 2.jpg
 
Are the tail bands ever considered in Goshawk vs. Sparrowhawk? In the US, goshawks often have much more "wavy" tail bands than Sharp-shinned and Cooper's Hawk. The bird in question seems to show quite wavy bars.

Does Sparrowhawk share this feature? I do note, however, that even in the US it's not a foolproof ID point.
 
birdmeister said:
Are the tail bands ever considered in Goshawk vs. Sparrowhawk? In the US, goshawks often have much more "wavy" tail bands than Sharp-shinned and Cooper's Hawk. The bird in question seems to show quite wavy bars.

Does Sparrowhawk share this feature? I do note, however, that even in the US it's not a foolproof ID point.
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there is a difference indeed but best seen from above where you also can see a white bordering of the tail bars not present in Sparrowhawk
 
tconzemi said:
that's a good one:
not huge bodied, rather slender
barred secondaries...
and still a Goshawk, my guess is a younger adult male:
bulging secondaries
inner secondaries (tertials) unbarred
huge feet
densily barred below
Click to expand...

tconzemi said:
there is a difference indeed but best seen from above where you also can see a white bordering of the tail bars not present in Sparrowhawk
Click to expand...

Interesting. Thanks for the correction!
 
tconzemi said:
that's a good one:
not huge bodied, rather slender
barred secondaries...
and still a Goshawk, my guess is a younger adult male:
bulging secondaries
inner secondaries (tertials) unbarred
huge feet
densily barred below
Click to expand...

I had it as Gos too, before reading Toms post.
 
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