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Old Saturday 4th April 2020, 15:22   #126
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Just measured the SF 8x32 and it is 150mm with eyecups down. Here is the photo requested with the Victory Pocket alongside the SF.

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Hello, Lee.
Thanks for posting that pic comparing the size of the SF 8x32 vs Victory pocket.
The focusing wheel on the SF looks huge for its size which I like.
Is the focusing wheel on the SF 8x32 as large as the wheel on your 8x42 SF ?

I wouldn't mind getting a pair of 10x32 SF for their lighter weight as I'm getting older and like less weight.
Plus, I've already got 10x42 covered with my HT 10x42.
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Hello, Lee.
Thanks for posting that pic comparing the size of the SF 8x32 vs Victory pocket.
The focusing wheel on the SF looks huge for its size which I like.
Is the focusing wheel on the SF 8x32 as large as the wheel on your 8x42 SF ?

I wouldn't mind getting a pair of 10x32 SF for their lighter weight as I'm getting older and like less weight.
Plus, I've already got 10x42 covered with my HT 10x42.
Yes, I have just measured them with dial calipers and the SF32 focus wheel is the same size as SF42.

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Old Saturday 4th April 2020, 16:25   #128
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Yes, I have just measured them with dial calipers and the SF32 focus wheel is the same size as SF42.

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Thanks for your quick reply and for checking on the adjusting wheel size, Lee.
That would indicate it's also the same size as the wheel on my HT.
Love the large adjusting wheel on my HT better than any other by far!
That makes the 10x32 SF even more appealing to me.
Thanks again, Lee.
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Photos of SF32

Here are some photos of SF32 from different angles and especially for Pyrtle there is even one with the eyecups screwed out.

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Thank you Lee,

Looking forward to your thoughts on ergonomics and view, even though you're not on a far flung island.
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Thank you Lee,

Looking forward to your thoughts on ergonomics and view, even though you're not on a far flung island.
Hi Pat

Glad you saw the pic! Looks like good weather for several days so looking forward to more testing.

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Yes, sitting out in the back garden with my SF42mms waiting for a flyover Osprey, hirundine or just chilling.
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I will try to obtain more information about SF32's optics and why they are so dramatically different from SF42s
Perhaps because Dr Konrad Seil is no longer alive to design them?

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Yes, sitting out in the back garden with my SF42mms waiting for a flyover Osprey, hirundine or just chilling.
I would have expected more birds out in the open, what with spring, but perhaps the eerie calm has unnerved them.

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The fact the Nikon EDG 8x32 was nearly as heavy and large as the Leica Ultravid 8x42 BL, not to mention even more expensive, may have something to do with it.
Just briefly to say without diverting too much from the Zeiss SF topic of this thread... Nikon EDG are still listed on the UK site. I bought new 7x42 EDG last year. The prices are steep - various models from c. 1,900 - 2,100 but the 8x32 has not been listed for some time.

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Thanks Lee.

Are you able to do the same side by side for FL32?

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Hi Alan,

Lee is right -- I do have his FL8x32 and a mighty fine glass it is too! But during the restrictions I cannot get hold of it to help, so I hope the 1p coin info is all you need.

All the best,

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Speaking of which, is there a binoculars store in the UK that will stock them and is a sponsor of BF? Or failing that, of the RSPB?

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Thanks for the extra photos, Lee.
Dang, those pics make me want a pair even more!
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Speaking of which, is there a binoculars store in the UK that will stock them and is a sponsor of BF? Or failing that, of the RSPB?
By 'BF' do you mean Birdforum or Bird Fair? Anyway, if you mean Bird Fair follow this link and you will see all the sponsors: https://birdfair.org.uk/

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We only need some info on where to find the legacy FL32 on sale now?
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By 'BF' do you mean Birdforum or Bird Fair?
Sorry for the confusion, I meant BirdForum, the way Camera Land NY is a "supporting vendor".

As for Bird Fair 2020, I am guessing it's highly unlikely to proceed as planned in August given what the Deputy Chief Medical Officer said about the lockdown lasting at least six month. It looks like Park Cameras is a sponsor.
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Sorry for the confusion, I meant BirdForum, the way Camera Land NY is a "supporting vendor".

As for Bird Fair 2020, I am guessing it's highly unlikely to proceed as planned in August given what the Deputy Chief Medical Officer said about the lockdown lasting at least six month. It looks like Park Cameras is a sponsor.
OK, please note that Birdforum and Birdfair are both just one word so the 'f' is not capitalised.
I think In Focus group also sponsors Birdfair.

I will make enquiries about dealer sponsors of Birdforum.

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Speaking of which, is there a binoculars store in the UK that will stock them and is a sponsor of BF? Or failing that, of the RSPB?
fazalmajid,

I'm being inquisitive / nosey as to why you ask please. There will be many options once we get through these challenging times to handle or purchase a pair. One thought crossed my mind today is what bad luck for Zeiss to launch a much awaited new product. Also if the world financial markets tumble as predicted most of us will be significantly poorer. Will prices come tumbling down or could alpha binoculars become a real financial luxury?....this based on a consumer prediction that house prices could crash here in the UK. Back on topic, Lee's photos have fanned the dying embers. They look sumptuous.
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I'm being inquisitive / nosey as to why you ask please. There will be many options once we get through these challenging times to handle or purchase a pair. One thought crossed my mind today is what bad luck for Zeiss to launch a much awaited new product. Also if the world financial markets tumble as predicted most of us will be significantly poorer. Will prices come tumbling down or could alpha binoculars become a real financial luxury?....this based on a consumer prediction that house prices could crash here in the UK. Back on topic, Lee's photos have fanned the dying embers. They look sumptuous.
Realistically the elite group of people that can buy a $2250.00 luxury item like a pair of binoculars are not going to be as affected by the downturn in the economy as the average Joe. They have enough cash reserves that they still are going to buy what they want within reason and if they want a Zeiss 8x32 SF they will buy it. Now they might put off the purchase of that new house or car but the economy is not going to affect a small purchase like a pair of binoculars.

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I will try to obtain more information about SF32's optics and why they are so dramatically different from SF42s
I would be even more interested in descriptions of any related differences you may notice in actually using the two.
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Optical retailers who sponsor Birdfair are :

Viking Optical, In Focus and Park Cameras.



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Optical retailers who sponsor Birdfair are :

Viking Optical, In Focus and Park Cameras.

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Thank you Gary.

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I heard back from Steve, and while Camera Land NY sponsors Birdforum (and is in renewal talks), there is no such equivalent in the UK. So In Focus or Park Cameras it is.
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I'm being inquisitive / nosey as to why you ask please.
Well, all retailers have them for the same price (2065 for the 8x32). I might as well patronise one that supports this forum or other bird-related organizations. I am not averse to ordering from B&H in New York (they offer shipping options with prepaid customs that are remarkably swift), but in this case it makes no sense at $2865 after shipping and customs.

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There will be many options once we get through these challenging times to handle or purchase a pair. One thought crossed my mind today is what bad luck for Zeiss to launch a much awaited new product. Also if the world financial markets tumble as predicted most of us will be significantly poorer. Will prices come tumbling down or could alpha binoculars become a real financial luxury?....this based on a consumer prediction that house prices could crash here in the UK. Back on topic, Lee's photos have fanned the dying embers. They look sumptuous.
It's certainly poor timing for Zeiss, but I don't recall the price of cameras or optics falling much if at all during the 2008 Great Recession. As for the markets, to quote a great Brit, John Maynard Keynes, “When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done”. I was expecting house prices to go down due to Brexit anyway, which is why I am renting, not buying yet, and in any case I am funding the purchase by disposing of underutilised goods.

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The pricey stuff might be too pricey for most now.
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