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Old Sunday 5th April 2020, 21:25   #101
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Love 'em but not on the IOC list unfortunately. Which Redpoll would that be - Lesser or Common?
You know the Redpolls aren't split either I take it?
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Old Sunday 5th April 2020, 21:39   #102
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You know the Redpolls aren't split either I take it?
Well spotted, it seems that I've managed to set up the list on an alternative taxonomy.

Too late tonight to do much about it ...

106 species. Some glaring omissions.
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Old Sunday 5th April 2020, 22:13   #103
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(The UK list as above - saves opening the link, but makes for a longer post when scrolling)

1 Pheasant
2 Canada Goose
3 Barnacle Goose
4 Greylag Goose
5 White-fronted Goose
6 Mute Swan
7 Whooper Swan
8 Shelduck
9 Mandarin Duck
10 Shoveler
11 Gadwall
12 Wigeon
13 Mallard
14 Pintail
15 Teal
16 Pochard
17 Tufted Duck
18 Eider
19 Common Scoter
20 Goldeneye
21 Goosander
22 Red-breasted Merganser
23 Rock Dove
24 Stock Dove
25 Woodpigeon
26 Collared Dove
27 Moorhen
28 Coot
29 Little Grebe
30 Great Crested Grebe
31 Oystercatcher
32 Lapwing
33 Grey Plover
34 Ringed Plover
35 Curlew
36 Turnstone
37 Knot
38 Sanderling
39 Dunlin
40 Purple Sandpiper
41 Common Snipe
42 Redshank
43 Black-headed Gull
44 Great Black-backed Gull
45 Herring Gull
46 Lesser Black-backed Gull
47 Razorbill
48 Red-throated Diver
49 Gannet
50 Cormorant
51 Cattle Egret
52 Grey Heron
53 Little Egret
54 Osprey
55 Sparrowhawk
56 Marsh Harrier
57 Buzzard
58 Tawny Owl
59 Kingfisher
60 Great Spotted Woodpecker
61 Green Woodpecker
62 Kestrel
63 Ring-necked Parakeet
64 Jay
65 Magpie
66 Jackdaw
67 Rook
68 Carrion Crow
69 Coal Tit
70 Marsh Tit
71 Great Tit
72 Skylark
73 Sand Martin
74 House Martin
75 Cetti's Warbler
76 Long-tailed Tit
77 Willow Warbler
78 Chiffchaff
79 Blackcap
80 Firecrest
81 Goldcrest
82 Nuthatch
83 Treecreeper
84 Starling
85 Ring Ouzel
86 Blackbird
87 Redwing
88 Song Thrush
89 Mistle Thrush
90 Stonechat
91 Wheatear
92 Dipper
93 House Sparrow
94 Tree Sparrow
95 Dunnock
96 Grey Wagtail
97 Pied Wagtail
98 Meadow Pipit
99 Rock Pipit
100 Chaffinch
101 Bullfinch
102 Greenfinch
103 Linnet
104 Lesser Redpoll
105 Goldfinch
106 Reed Bunting
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Old Monday 6th April 2020, 05:33   #104
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I'm not actually locked down, but birds seen either from home or dog walking here in Hong Kong include:

1) Asian Koel (h)
2) Black-crowned Night Heron
3) Little Egret
4) white-throated Kingfisher
5) leucopsis White Wagtail
6) Black-collared Starling
7) Oriental Magpie Robin
8) Blue Whistling Thrush
9) House Swift
10) Black Kite
11) Swinhoe's White-eye
12) Cinereous Tit
13) Spotted Dove
14) Eurasian Tree Sparrow
15) White-breasted Waterhen
16) Crested Myna
17) Fischer's Lovebird (feral pop)
18) Dusky Warbler
19) Yellow-browed Warbler

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Attached should be the Europe list (IOC) - 133 species. We need a few participants from Scandinavia/E Europe for variety possibly, but still plenty elsewhere to go.
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Old Monday 6th April 2020, 07:58   #106
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I'm not actually locked down, but birds seen either from home or dog walking here in Hong Kong include:
Not sure that we can discriminate against? ... Are you using IOC taxonomy?
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Old Monday 6th April 2020, 08:45   #107
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Up to midnight last night - World = 179
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Old Monday 6th April 2020, 09:09   #108
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Good work Dan, Black Woodpecker missed off (see my post 59)
I will scan for Alpine Chough with my 'scope today., should be a dead cert.
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Old Monday 6th April 2020, 09:26   #109
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Good work Dan, Black Woodpecker missed off (see my post 59)
I will scan for Alpine Chough with my 'scope today., should be a dead cert.
Ha, I added it to the World list, but not Europe ... it'll be on the next update
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I'm also wondering what to do since this thread has since started up -

https://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=388204

Seems a bit silly doing both (and lots of work), with either repetition, or different records on each. Merge the results? Delegate eg the world component out??

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Old Monday 6th April 2020, 11:21   #111
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Let’s have a Gambia list, please
Sorry for the teaser. The Government have decided to send a plane over to fetch us tomorrow, so I've been spending my last hours enjoying the freedom while I still can. I had 20-25 species over 3 days including Blue-bellied and Abyssinian Rollers, Black-shouldered Kite, Wattled and Black-headed Plovers. Heard Four-banded Sandgrouse at dusk out back twice. Will have lots of time on my hands when I get back to UK to give you the full list later, if this thread still ongoing.
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From my balcony in Piedimonte Matese, Caserta province in southern Italy I can add

Pallid Harrier: adult male on March 28, certainly my best balcony bird ever! Part of a major movement on March 27-30, quite a few people in Italy got to add this one to their balcony/yard lists

Hen Harrier: 1 on March 29

Golden Eagle: 2 on March 28, a pair that nests not too far, but still very infrequently seen from home

Cuckoo: a fly-by yesterday

Scops Owl: calling most nights

Willow Warbler: 1 March 28
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From my balcony in Piedimonte Matese, Caserta province in southern Italy I can add

Pallid Harrier: adult male on March 28, certainly my best balcony bird ever! Part of a major movement on March 27-30, quite a few people in Italy got to add this one to their balcony/yard lists

Hen Harrier: 1 on March 29

Golden Eagle: 2 on March 28, a pair that nests not too far, but still very infrequently seen from home

Cuckoo: a fly-by yesterday

Scops Owl: calling most nights

Willow Warbler: 1 March 28
Oh, also Yellow-legged Gull through some patient scope scanning of the river plain a few km away
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Old Monday 6th April 2020, 15:06   #114
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You know the Redpolls aren't split either I take it?
Duh? Yes, they are split: https://www.worldbirdnames.org/bow/finches/ (scroll just over ⅔ of the way down)
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Old Monday 6th April 2020, 15:21   #115
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Booted eagle

Booted eagle over the house today. Also about 200 bee eaters in groups of 10-15, every 15 minutes or so.
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Red Kite is not on the last UK list posted - certainly had one over here last week.

Robin and Yellowhammer also missing, so I can add those as well.

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Old Monday 6th April 2020, 19:19   #117
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Blue Tit (it's not in your post#103 list)
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Old Tuesday 7th April 2020, 01:18   #118
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Blue Tit (it's not in your post#103 list)
Its not exactly a Kagu. But a tick’s a tick - good work my friend!
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So I forgot to report this last week - it was sighted the 31 March!

Also today had its cousin the Cirl Bunting... Camberwell beauty in the garden - one of the recognisable butterflies for me.


So Rock to be added to March and Cirl to April, that said I did have Cirl in March as well but 4 days before our lockdown...
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I'm also wondering what to do since this thread has since started up -

https://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=388204

Seems a bit silly doing both (and lots of work), with either repetition, or different records on each. Merge the results? Delegate eg the world component out??

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I think this post was purely for Sunday the 5th...
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I think this post was purely for Sunday the 5th...
It was, but then it was decided to carry it on. I'm happy to continue with updates here depending on what happens.
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Duh? Yes, they are split: https://www.worldbirdnames.org/bow/finches/ (scroll just over ⅔ of the way down)
These splits are tentative. The notes to each entry emphasise that, especially the statement 'Redpoll taxonomy is unsettled'...

An equally persuasive case can be made for lumping, given that Mason and Taylor 2015 found little to no genetic separation at species level between any Redpoll populations, whether previously considered separable at species level or not.

Either way, there are too many vagaries that don't at all fit with either approach, which means that further work may shed some light one way or the other. Note also that Amouret et al 2016 made a case for morphological separation in most Redpoll taxa, except for the Iceland taxon which they were researching!
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Amouret, J, GT Hallgrimsson, Y Kolbeinsson and S Pálsson. 2016. Morphological differentiation of Icelandic Redpolls, Acanthis flammea islandica. Bird Study 63(1): 37-45
Mason, NA and SA Taylor. 2015. Differentially expressed genes match bill morphology and plumage despite largely undifferentiated genomes in a Holarctic songbird. Mol. Ecol.doi: 10.1111/mec.13140
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I do apologise, I must be losing it
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It was, but then it was decided to carry it on. I'm happy to continue with updates here depending on what happens.
so do we post here or in both forums or?
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