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Old Friday 1st September 2017, 15:00   #1
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500lb Tuna, Wales

What a monster!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-s...wales-41125399

I'm curious how they landed it without gaffing it as they commendably, returned it to the water.


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Do you think it's likely to survive after this ordeal?
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Do you think it's likely to survive after this ordeal?
That was my point, how did they land such a big fish without gaffing it?


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Old Saturday 2nd September 2017, 08:49   #4
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Wow, thanks Andy.

At one stage, in the 30's, the rod world record for Tuna was caught off Scarborough, 851LBS!!, and the Tunny 'rod' fishing centre of the world was Sandgate, Scarborough (now a restaurant 'the tunny club'). The rules were rowing boat, single line, single rod, man against beast!

Sadly, with a change in the gulf stream Scarborough and Whitby have lost their warm currents and Tuna are only rarely seen or rumoured in the waters there.

In the book 'Tunny' they talk about 24 hours struggles against these fish and one guy being towed 4 miles. Incredible fish...
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Wow, thanks Andy.

At one stage, in the 30's, the rod world record for Tuna was caught off Scarborough, 851LBS!!, and the Tunny 'rod' fishing centre of the world was Sandgate, Scarborough (now a restaurant 'the tunny club'). The rules were rowing boat, single line, single rod, man against beast!

Sadly, with a change in the gulf stream Scarborough and Whitby have lost their warm currents and Tuna are only rarely seen or rumoured in the waters there.

In the book 'Tunny' they talk about 24 hours struggles against these fish and one guy being towed 4 miles. Incredible fish...
But how did / do they land such big fish without gaffing or other injury?


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What a monster!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-s...wales-41125399

I'm curious how they landed it without gaffing it as they commendably, returned it to the water.


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Sadly, with a change in the gulf stream Scarborough and Whitby have lost their warm currents and Tuna are only rarely seen or rumoured in the waters there.
Overfishing, not change in currents.

Those giant Tuna were probably very old (possibly centuries?), and it'd probably need that long again with a complete ban on catching for sizes like that to occur again.
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rope around the tail i guess
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Overfishing, not change in currents.
i can testify that the sea is fairly cold at scabby now...

In fairness does seem to be that the tuna food mackerel and herring overfishing led to the tuna demise in our waters...

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Warm-blooded, intelligent, long-lived ...

More sport! (ok I know by-catch and admirably/correctly returned). Tuna and Lobsters - big shame tbh.

Seemingly record numbers in the SW aproaches this year
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Bluefin tuna are actually very fast-growing so that large individuals are not necessarily very old. This also means that if the fishing pressure is reduced, the stock is able to recover quite quickly. This is what has happened in recent years and the northeast Atlantic stock is now increasing rapidly. This is likely to be a contributing factor to why they are reappearing in British waters with increasing frequency, although climate change is probably also an influence.

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Bluefin tuna are actually very fast-growing so that large individuals are not necessarily very old. This also means that if the fishing pressure is reduced, the stock is able to recover quite quickly. This is what has happened in recent years and the northeast Atlantic stock is now increasing rapidly. This is likely to be a contributing factor to why they are reappearing in British waters with increasing frequency, although climate change is probably also an influence.
That may apply to the 226 kg one reported y'day, but does it also apply to the 400+ kg individual(s) from the 1930s? Most animals are fast-growing when young, but then slow down, and huge ones are likely to be ancient.
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Japs wouldn't return it to the water, would be worth thousands in the sushi market!

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That may apply to the 226 kg one reported y'day, but does it also apply to the 400+ kg individual(s) from the 1930s? Most animals are fast-growing when young, but then slow down, and huge ones are likely to be ancient.
They reach 400kg at around 20 years, and the current recovery dates from management measures put in place around ten years ago. The most recently available information suggests they can live for around 40 years and grow up to about 725kg. More information here.
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They reach 400kg at around 20 years, and the current recovery dates from management measures put in place around ten years ago. The most recently available information suggests they can live for around 40 years and grow up to about 725kg. More information here.
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Japs wouldn't return it to the water, would be worth thousands in the sushi market!
Slightly out, there, I fear

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...shing-concerns

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Same size as the Welsh one.
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