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Old Sunday 10th June 2018, 03:34   #1
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Oriole, Toronto

Toronto, May 2018.
Baltimore or Orchard?
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Old Sunday 10th June 2018, 03:52   #2
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Old Sunday 10th June 2018, 04:03   #3
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The first one is a Baltimore. The second is an Orchard. For the third one I lean toward Baltimore.
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The first one is a Baltimore. The second is an Orchard. For the third one I lean toward Baltimore.

This is what I see as well.
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The third bird I suspected Orchard because of its black throat along with the wide white wing bar. Are these features still ok for the Baltimore?
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The third bird I suspected Orchard because of its black throat along with the wide white wing bar. Are these features still ok for the Baltimore?

Yes. Females/young birds are variable. Orchard Oriole never shows the light orange color shown in the photo.
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The third bird I suspected Orchard because of its black throat along with the wide white wing bar. Are these features still ok for the Baltimore?
Except that sometimes they do in photos. I wouldn’t make a habit of going by color on orioles especially in shadows from one picture that isn’t even all that orange. That being said it does look perhaps more likely a Baltimore.

1. Baltimore
2 orchard
3 not sure but would tentatively go with Baltimore.
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I wouldn’t make a habit of going by color on orioles especially in shadows from one picture that isn’t even all that orange.
Each to his own. I've found it to be 100% reliable for distinguishing the two eastern orioles. Orchard will always be yellow-green without a hint of orange (except the dark maroon of the adult male of course).

In any event, the brown speckled "cap" and brown speckled throat also rule out Orchard.
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I'm also in the Baltimore, Orchard, Baltimore camp.

And I agree with Jim M. that color is a very reliable indicator.

FWIW, the plumage seen in picture #3 is a commonly seen plumage for young Baltimore Orioles, but rarely seen in the northeast of N.A. for orchard orioles. Clearly they must transition through something like that, but I can't recall ever seeing it. I suspect it happens on the wintering grounds.
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