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Old Thursday 11th December 2003, 19:54   #1
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Question C-5060 ??

I've seen some good reviews of the new Camedia c-5060 and I'm particularly interested in the wide end of the zoom for landscapes etc.
Has anybody tried it on a 'scope yet?
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Old Friday 12th December 2003, 13:35   #2
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No, but welcome to bird forum anyway John.
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Old Friday 12th December 2003, 15:57   #3
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Hi Wiltshirejohn,

On behalf of Admin and the Moderators, welcome to Bird Forum

I'm afraid that I can't help with your query either as I haven't tried out the camera. I used to have an Olympus C2000 which was the same basic design. You could extend the threaded body mount using a CLA-1 adapter to give I think it was 46mm thread which could then be coupled to a digiscoping adapter using step rings. You could get images through the scope with it. They never amounted to much though I suspect that was down to the smaller (60mm) non-ED glass scope that I had back then and poor technique on my part.

From the advertising I see that the new EagleEye digiscoping adapter is supposed to enable these wider lens cameras to be used, but I haven't read any user reports about doing so yet. Hopefully someone will have tried out this camera and can help more.
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Old Wednesday 28th January 2004, 07:24   #4
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Hi Wiltshirejohn,
I just bought a 5060 (just 2 days ago)! I am still using my coolpix 4300, although I am trying to sell it now. I am in contact with Cheang Kum Seng from malaysia (who is one of the pioneers of digiscoping togetehr with Lawrence Poh) who is making adaptors for the 5060.
According to Cheang, the 5060 is th ebest replacement for the 990/995 Nikon cameras. He obviously convinced me, and I am making the switch from my 4300 to the Olympus.
He has sent me some photos which I think are great, and with the shear power of the 5060, I had no reason why I would choose the 4500 over the 5060.
Once I get my adaptor for attaching my 5060 to my Swarovski AT80HD, I go out to the field to get some pics. Will advice once I have them.
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Old Wednesday 28th January 2004, 09:03   #5
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Hi Paul
I've now taken the plunge and bought one myself. I'm taking time to learn the characteristics of the camera first - then it will be attached to the Opticron ES80.
Much playing around and much learning to do!

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Old Thursday 29th January 2004, 00:54   #6
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Hi John,
Glad to hear that you have taken the plunge. Would like to keep in touch with you on your thoughts on an ongoing basis. As you know, there arn't many digiscopers using the 5060 yet. Hopefully this will change over time.
Would you mind giving me your e-mail?
Mine's
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For those in the UK thinking of buying this camera, 'Amateur Photographer' magazine did a test in the January 24th edition.
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Old Thursday 29th January 2004, 10:35   #8
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I know these things have a remarkably low battery consumption but... I would like a spare battery.

I do NOT like Olympus' rip-off price for the BLM-1.

Anybody in the UK know of alternative suppliers?
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Old Friday 30th January 2004, 05:07   #9
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I've seen some good reviews of the new Camedia c-5060 and I'm particularly interested in the wide end of the zoom for landscapes etc.
Has anybody tried it on a 'scope yet?
Ooi Beng Yeng (Malaysia) has posted a few images on the Birds-Pix mail list using his C5060. He is using Cheang's adapter. The results look quiet good.

"...On the other hand the Olympus C-5060 does not vignette from its 4x down to about 2.5x on my Swarovski 20-60X scope, hence maximising the power of digiscoping just like the CP990 when the combined power of optical zoom of the camera and the scope.
Ooi Beng Yeng - on the Yahoo Groups Birds-Pix list"

I really like my CP5000 for digiscoping, but if I were buying a 5MP for digiscoping today, it would probably be the C5060.
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Old Friday 30th January 2004, 07:40   #10
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Thanks Jay, that verifies my own early handheld experiments: i.e. no vignetting from about half zoom to full telephoto.
This is using an Opticron ES80 and 25x eyepiece.

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Old Tuesday 24th February 2004, 02:20   #11
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I've got the Olympus C5050 (that's the 5060's older brother - or is it younger brother?) and was wondering if anyone has used it for digiscoping. What scopes/setups are good for a 'big lensed' camera like the 5050?
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Old Tuesday 24th February 2004, 07:17   #12
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C-5050

I don't know about the 5050 but the 5060 certainly has a 'big' lens in terms of it's diameter. Now this does not matter a lot - see Jay Turberville's website (the URL is a few posts above this one.

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Old Tuesday 24th February 2004, 07:56   #13
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UDCA added to kit.

In order to join together the C-5060 and the Opticron ES80 I have invested (and I use the word advisedly!!) in Opticron's UDCA (Universal Digital Camera Adapter).

Once set up, it holds the camera reasonably steady. However, the set up is fiddly and has to be repeated whenever you remove and replace the camera from the 'scope. Having said that, it does become quicker and easier with practice.

Whilst mounted on the 'scope you can swing the camera to one side in order to get 'on the bird' then swing back again for snapping.

Unfortunately, due to the shape of the 'scope prism housing and the required close mounting position for this camera the ammount of swing available is restricted. There is just enough room to get an eye to the eyepiece. I'm working on some mods.

FOR: Good steady mount.
Versatile - can be used with (almost) any camera/scope.
Good quality, well made.

AGAINST: Fiddly setup which must be repeated with each use.
Expensive.

Happy Snapping - John C.

p.s. Note to moderators - can/should this be cross-posted to another part of the forum? Suggestions?
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Old Wednesday 3rd March 2004, 11:59   #14
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Hi I have recently bought a 5060 and I have cheked with my Optolyt Compact APO HD and Eyepiece 20-60X not vignette fron 2x to 4x the problem I Have now is think what adapter I ned because the zoom is movil and if you works with the zom and hit whit the eyepiece produce a camera zoom error. I am wonderin if you have the solution for this.

By other hand I have see that the teleconverter Crystal Vue 8X32 fits and works pecfet whit this camera (a good new I think).http://ckcpower.com/
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Old Wednesday 3rd March 2004, 12:31   #15
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Whichever adapter you choose, you will have to do some set up.

With the UDCA that I described in a previous post, I turn the camera on and adjust the zoom until the barrel is at maximum extension and then proceed with setting up the adapter.

Thus the lens barrel will not be able to strike the eyepiece. As I said before - fiddly - but it works.

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Old Wednesday 3rd March 2004, 14:13   #16
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Thank You. I m going to try and I think I'll be success. If you improve your adapter I m glad to have news
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Old Thursday 22nd April 2004, 17:47   #17
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Whilst mounted on the 'scope you can swing the camera to one side in order to get 'on the bird' then swing back again for snapping.
Unfortunately, due to the shape of the 'scope prism housing and the required close mounting position for this camera the ammount of swing available is restricted. There is just enough room to get an eye to the eyepiece. I'm working on some mods.
(Apologies for being a latecomer to this thread)
The above problem may be overcome by the use of a "Red Dot Sight" - as used with air pistols/rifles. For example J S Ramsbottom list a 30mm version for £29.95 - I have recently bought (but not yet fitted or used it yet) one and it provides a very clear image.
www.jsramsbottom.com/

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HI, I'm interested of using C-5060. I'm using now a Coolpix 885 with a Diascope 85 by Zeiss (30w), they are joined together with something I've made by myself with hard-paper.

I'd like to know about the Conversion Lens Adaptater CLA-7 wich is made to use optic accesories. Is it possible to use it to put the 5060 in front of eyepiece, with over part of course (made by myself; I repeat)... The thing I'd like to know is if it's possible to have the minimun vignette in using this CLA-7.

Thanks. Regards. Valère
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HI, I'm interested of using C-5060. I'm using now a Coolpix 885 with a Diascope 85 by Zeiss (30w), they are joined together with something I've made by myself with hard-paper.

I'd like to know about the Conversion Lens Adaptater CLA-7 wich is made to use optic accesories. Is it possible to use it to put the 5060 in front of eyepiece, with over part of course (made by myself; I repeat)... The thing I'd like to know is if it's possible to have the minimun vignette in using this CLA-7.
I believe the CLA-7 has a special proprietary bayonet mount on the "scope side". But I do believe there are third party adapters that have threads.

You might want to look at this fellows site and/or contact him.

http://pygge.spymac.net/spymac/

He is using the Zeiss Diascope and the C5060.
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Old Tuesday 6th July 2004, 08:39   #20
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Adapter for C-5060

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HI, I'm interested of using C-5060. I'm using now a Coolpix 885 with a Diascope 85 by Zeiss (30w), they are joined together with something I've made by myself with hard-paper.

I'd like to know about the Conversion Lens Adaptater CLA-7 wich is made to use optic accesories. Is it possible to use it to put the 5060 in front of eyepiece, with over part of course (made by myself; I repeat)... The thing I'd like to know is if it's possible to have the minimun vignette in using this CLA-7.

Thanks. Regards. Valère
I've been using the UDCA as described in earlier posts. This holds the camera up to the 'scope eyepiece in about the same position as an adapter tube would. From full wide-angle to about one third zoom there is vignetting. From one third zoom to full tele, there is no vignetting

As Jay said above, the CLA7 has a 48.5mm thread at the camera end and an OLYMPUS proprietary bayonet at the front end. (Corporate greed trying to tie you in again!)

An alternative is an adapter made by RAYNOX (RT5248) which gives you a 52mm thread at the front end. Although Raynox obviously make this so you can use their add-on lenses, I'm sure that this would be a better start for your home-brew adapter. Here in the UK, Jessops sell it for less than £10.

Take a look towards the bottom of this URL:

http://www.raynox.co.jp/february/adapterpage.htm

Another useful source of adapters etc. is SRB Film Service.

http://www.srbfilm.co.uk/

Hope this helps - wiltshirejohn.

p.s. I've had my C-5060 for six months now and am absolutely delighted with it.
Also, I'm still learning how to use it! (So many bells & whistles)

p.p.s. The telescope eyepiece will of course be another big factor in the ammount of vignetting.

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Old Wednesday 21st July 2004, 12:15   #21
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c-5060+zeiss diascope t*fl 85 20x-60x

Hi,

I am the one Jay mentioned using this compo. In my setup there is no vignetting between 11,5mm-full zoom. And the adapter in the asetup
photo http://pygge.spymac.net/spymac/ is made by my friend, it is solid and heavy iron, my own design. A few more photos are here: http://pygge.spymac.net/best1/ . Now I have put also 4 untouched digicameravideoscoping clips here: http://pygge.spymac.net/cutmov/
They are only about 15s, but as video always big files 10mb-14mb and
I can't be sure how spymac is handling this kind of video flows, better
download I think.

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Old Tuesday 27th July 2004, 16:09   #22
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adjustments and Adapter for 5060

Hi users of the 5060 for digiscoping

I have recently made and inteligent adapter (I think) using the CLA 7 and a part similar to the ekhohe adapter. Adventages you can adap the camera to the scope like you put a wide angle o a teleconverter in the CLA 7 you dont need screws (A friend has made a fhoto of my adapter and I am going to put in my galery in this web)
Other think I m interest is kwon the ajusments that you used with your cameras because all the recommendations are for the 4500 and I think are not the best solution for our camera by exemple I think my camera focus better in AF Than MF infinity I think the better medition is ESP, and the P position or is better the M? (I dont kwon because I have no experience enought) ISO? White Balance? Is interesting the rafaga or one by one shot Is usefull the histogram? I like the fhotos made by ekhohe I Wonder if She could tell us something about the adjustments in his fhotograps
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5060 adjustments

Hi Paco,

firstly I am He not She. First shoots I mostly take with these adjustments:
Zoom 11,5mm; ISO=80; A-mode F:3,2, AF mode spot; Focus macro; Exposure centerweight; ev -0,3; White balance auto, Sharpness -1; Contrast +1, Saturation +2, Scene mode landscape; Fulltime AF off; Histogram direct; AF illuminator off and Remote on.
The camera tends to target to the background and then you have to use manual focus, ESP exposure can't I in my opion handle handle light background dark bird situations.

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Thank you very very much ekhohe

And Sorry for the confusion I m going to test your adjustments and see the results. I imagine my fhotos improve a lot.
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Hi everybody.

Thanks you very much for all the people who give informations to me.

I'd like to say that the Olympus C-5060 is fonctioning very well with my Zeiss diascope 30 ww and that it doesn't vignet at all !! Yes of course it does a at 27mm but juste a LITTLE and with pressing the minimun in the zoon in it vignet no more !

With the zoom it a little complicate to make an adaptation but the Raynox RT-5248. Ti has to move (the APN has to touch the eyepiece in any position), but it works !

Now I have another problem. It is with the using of a remote control. The one that is give with the C-5060 is just wrong it works with a time delay of 2s more than with pressing the shutter.

The RM-CB1 cable release is compatible with the 5060 but it need to use (and to buy) a very big B-HLD20 !?!

see more at :

http://www.wrotniak.net/photo/c5050/c5060-hld.html

There is a thing that I'd like to try. I will be to connect the RM-CB1 directly to my camera in the wire pins receptacles below the batery chamber hinge. There are five a i'd like to know if tis operation is possible in term of electronic and wich one's need to be connect.

Wish you have understand.

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