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Pipit Udewalawe National Park in Sri Lanka November 2019

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Old Friday 14th February 2020, 10:18   #1
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Pipit Udewalawe National Park in Sri Lanka November 2019

Anyone want to have a go at identifying this Pipit taken in Udewalawe National Park in Sri Lanka in November 2019? Presumably either Paddyfield or Blyth's.

And if you could indicate the plumage details that pointed to the ID that would be great.

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Old Friday 14th February 2020, 12:15   #2
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Anyone want to have a go at identifying this Pipit taken in Udewalawe National Park in Sri Lanka in November 2019? Presumably either Paddyfield or Blyth's.

And if you could indicate the plumage details that pointed to the ID that would be great.

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First of all, what is the difference between the Paddyfield and Blyth's Pipit? I can't tell the differnece.
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Old Friday 14th February 2020, 12:22   #3
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Blyth's Pipit for me.
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Blyth's Pipit for me.
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Could you say how you identified it?
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Blyth's Pipit for me.
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Ummm been down this track before. Any chance of updating the Opus entries [I did for paddyfield]?

...Esp. in the light of the recent neotropical birds announcement. How long will ebird remain free?

[Blyth's was my impression too based on previous conversation + experience of the other species]
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Ummm been down this track before. Any chance of updating the Opus entries [I did for paddyfield]?

...Esp. in the light of the recent neotropical birds announcement. How long will ebird remain free?

[Blyth's was my impression too based on previous conversation + experience of the other species]
I highly doubt eBird will ever not be free... Why do you think it won't?
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Could you say how you identified it?
In this context, we must speak of a good presumption.
First of all the general appearance, a rather compact bird with a medium beak.
Then clearly streaked upper parts.
A relatively discreet eyebrow...
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I highly doubt eBird will ever not be free... Why do you think it won't?
Depends a bit which aspect of it. There's nothing which says that they need to provide a unified page for each species with photos, description, link to Macauley, ebird map etc.

>>Why do you think it won't?
Because of what's happening to the Neotropical birds site.
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Anyone want to have a go at identifying this Pipit taken in Udewalawe National Park in Sri Lanka in November 2019? Presumably either Paddyfield or Blyth's.

And if you could indicate the plumage details that pointed to the ID that would be great.

Thanks

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I'd say that the hind claw isn't long enough for Paddyfield for starters.

Supercilium in Paddyfield is said to 'taper' at the rear which this doesn't seem to to me.

Decent article here

https://digdeep1962.wordpress.com/20...s-in-malaysia/
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I'd say that the hind claw isn't long enough for Paddyfield for starters.

Supercilium in Paddyfield is said to 'taper' at the rear which this doesn't seem to to me.

Decent article here

https://digdeep1962.wordpress.com/20...s-in-malaysia/
Like the Sennen 'Paddyfield Pipit' then.

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My first look at the image concluded in it being Paddyfield for me.
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Anyone want to have a go at identifying this Pipit taken in Udewalawe National Park in Sri Lanka in November 2019? Presumably either Paddyfield or Blyth's.

And if you could indicate the plumage details that pointed to the ID that would be great.

Thanks

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I can't see anything that discounts the most likely species, Paddyfield Pipit. I'd want a feature that conclusively discounts that before thinking of the other possibilities. (Blyth's for example always appear to have a broad-based bill), and I can't see any pro-Richard's, non-Paddyfield feature.

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I agree. I can't see anything other than Paddyfield here, especially as this species is dirt common at this location, whereas Blyth's is a scarce migrant in Sri Lanka. I certainly wouldn't call Blyth's with that bill shape, a loral stripe (albeit thin) and a weak cheek stripe, not to mention no view of the breast streaking or median covert centres. The streaky/scaly appearance indicates an immature bird, the juvenile plumage of PP being unique among the large Anthus Pipits - they can be darker and more heavily-marked than this.
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