Borneo moth IDs (1 Viewer)

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Jim M.

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• Aug 25, 2019

• #1

Have checked a lot of resources online and haven't found anything very close to these that makes me confident I'm getting close to an ID. Even getting to the family level would be helpful. Both were taken in upper montane forest in Sabah in Mount Kinabalu National Park (maybe 1500 meters elevation). (Pretty sure the blue one is a moth, but not certain!)

 

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honeym

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• Aug 25, 2019

• #2

The resting posture of the first rings bells with me but I'll have to think about it. Possibly Oecophoridae or something close. Have you tried the plates in the Moths of Borneo series by Jeremy Holloway, which are available on-line.

 

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Jim M.

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• Aug 26, 2019

• #3

honeym said:

The resting posture of the first rings bells with me but I'll have to think about it. Possibly Oecophoridae or something close. Have you tried the plates in the Moths of Borneo series by Jeremy Holloway, which are available on-line.

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Thanks. I had used the plates to ID various other photos once I had an idea of something close, but hadn't tried to use them to ID from scratch--guess I thought they were only partially completed. But I just did a check for the blue one and this appears to be it: http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-11/Boarmiini/boarmiini_1_2.php

Haven't tried the other one yet; but since the plates don't have illustrations of the moths in natural resting postures, it will be more difficult!

 

honeym

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• Aug 26, 2019

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Yes, I'd looked at M. fulgida but dismissed it on the basis that the red fascia only extends to the middle of the forewing, not to the hind margin.
As for the other, Moths of Borneo only deals with the macro moths, not the micros.
Martin

 

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Jim M.

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• Aug 26, 2019

• #5

honeym said:

Yes, I'd looked at M. fulgida but dismissed it on the basis that the red fascia only extends to the middle of the forewing, not to the hind margin.

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Good point, but I think it is by far the closest option in the book (or the galleries of Borneo moth photos I've reviewed). Online photos suggest some variation in the length of the orange striping; though it might also be an unrecognized species.

 

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honeym

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• Aug 27, 2019

• #6

Always possible.
I've sent a copy of the micro to a colleague. I'll let you know what he thinks.
Martin

 

honeym

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• Aug 28, 2019

• #7

Your micro is a member of the family Lecithoceridae, probably the genus Lecithocera and perhaps a sp. near Lecithocera erecta Meyrick.
Martin

 

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Jim M.

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• Aug 29, 2019

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honeym said:

Your micro is a member of the family Lecithoceridae, probably the genus Lecithocera and perhaps a sp. near Lecithocera erecta Meyrick.
Martin

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Excellent. Thanks Martin!