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Old Monday 9th October 2006, 19:49   #1
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ID Please wasp like

I have been trying for the last couple to find a look alike for this wasp type bug. I give up, any ideas.
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Old Monday 9th October 2006, 20:07   #2
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Think I'm going to be brave and have a go at this because I've never seen it! (but don't expect any species name, I just want to help narrow it down)

I'm struggling to see if it has 2 pairs of wings - did you notice? And is the wing colour in the picture accurate? It looks weird...

For a starting point I'm going to say it's either in the Order Neuroptera or Plecoptera, but don't worry - I'm probably wrong!
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Old Monday 9th October 2006, 20:19   #3
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I have just had a look at the other photos I have, they are not as clear so I can't tell. it was caught in a spiders web quite high up in the greenhouse so I couldn't get a top view.
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Old Monday 9th October 2006, 21:47   #4
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Hi Christine

Almost certainly Hemiptera (check out the piercing mouthparts)

Beyond that i am less certain(poss Leptopterna dolobrata)

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I have just had a look at the other photos I have, they are not as clear so I can't tell. it was caught in a spiders web quite high up in the greenhouse so I couldn't get a top view.
Hello Saphire,

Could you post your other pictures, if you have any taken from another angle.
I think it could be a Hemipteran. That's an evil looking rostrum (sucking tube) tucked under it's head. It looks like the elytra (wing cases) may have been displaced, thus changing the look of the creature.

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blimey that was quick!
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blimey that was quick!
Superman's got nothin on me for speed. lol. Actually Colin, your post wasn't there when I started my reply to Saphire. We both seem to be thinking along the same lines though. the antennae are also right for a Hemipteran.

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Old Monday 9th October 2006, 21:57   #8
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These are the other two I have. It is a puzzler. I wish I was able to get the top view at the time.
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These are the other two I have. It is a puzzler. I wish I was able to get the top view at the time.
Is it flying or levitating?
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These are the other two I have. It is a puzzler. I wish I was able to get the top view at the time.
Hello Saphire,

Both the other pics confirm my and Colins view that it is a Hemipteran but without an view of the upper side I can't narrow it down further. Sorry.

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Old Monday 9th October 2006, 22:06   #11
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Thats fine Harry its a start. it was stood on the spiders web, you can just see it under one of the feet.
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Thats fine Harry its a start. it was stood on the spiders web, you can just see it under one of the feet.
SSHH never tell how a magic trick is done!
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Old Monday 9th October 2006, 22:22   #13
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Could it be a Dance fly, http://www.gardensafari.net/english/robberflies.htm. Very similar apart from the colour.
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Hello again Christine

No I'm afraid not, as Diptera (true flies) don't possess the antennae that your specimen does.
Persevere with the Hemiptera group as this is a definite.
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Old Monday 9th October 2006, 22:30   #15
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Will do, now I have a type to look for I will just keep trawling until something turns up.
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Here is my original suggestion of Leptopterna dolabrata

http://www.bioimages.org.uk/HTML/P4/P45780.php
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Old Tuesday 10th October 2006, 09:12   #17
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Hmmm! the markings on the back definately look like the Leptopterna dolabrata.
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