Isabelline or Northern Wheatear, Romania June 2019 (1 Viewer)

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Earnest lad

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• Aug 15, 2019

• #1

Having a belated look at photos taken on my recent trip to the Dobrugea region of Romania, I came across this one attached.
I notice the pale supercilium seems to stretch in front of they eye and that this bird is quite upright. However I am not confident about identity.
Please can anyone advise further on the matter

 

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Earnest lad

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• Aug 15, 2019

• #2

Sorry this is the link to the image

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xic1l7ptv0exix5/wheatear qu.jpg?dl=0

 

rollingthunder

Well-known member

• Aug 15, 2019

• #3

It’s a lot of effort to go on to a site like that that you do not use i would suggest posting here as an attachment to make it easier for people to advise:t:

Laurie -

 

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Earnest lad

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• Aug 15, 2019

• #4

Yes I am sorry for that. I tried uploading it and several times failed with different sizes and shapes of the image. I don't know what I was doing wrong. I've just tried again and it worked for some reason. It is here.

 

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SteveClifton

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• Aug 15, 2019

• #5

Juvenile Northern

 

Nutcracker

Stop Brexit!

• Aug 15, 2019

• #6

Extensive black on the tail, clean white thighs, looks good for a juvenile Isabelline, but difficult to be 100% sure from this angle

Edit - cross-posted with Steve, what are your reasons for saying Northern?

 

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SteveClifton

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• Aug 15, 2019

• #7

The short, but honest answer is I didn't check, which is fatal I know, so I'm almost certainy wrong! :smoke:

 

Nutcracker

Stop Brexit!

• Aug 15, 2019

• #8

Good one! As I'm not certain either, let's wait and see what others have to say too :-O

 

njlarsen

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• Aug 16, 2019

• #9

I will go far out on a limb because I really do not know, but:
several images of northern in the gallery you could only see black on the underside of the tail, white was hidden by the coverts. Isabelline in other age classes only have black on the Alula but not the rest of the wing. It does not look like the black on the wing of this bird is at the alula. Therefore I am leaning Northern. So now an expert will prove me wrong (it is probably 20 years since I saw either of these two species )

Niels

 

rollingthunder

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• Aug 16, 2019

• #10

Saw a couple of juvenile Northern recently, waiting to be fed by an adult, looked just like that if it’s of any help:t:

Laurie -

 

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andyb39

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• Aug 16, 2019

• #11

It looks more like juvenile Northern to me.

 

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Earnest lad

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• Aug 16, 2019

• #12

Thank you everyone.
Northern it is then.
To be honest there were quite a few Northerns around this area and it wasn't a location known for Isabelline (Sinoe Lagoons)
Thanks and best wishes , Ian