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Review of Kowa BD II 6.5x32 XD (1 Viewer)

I am at Ding Darling Reserve in Cape Coral Florida where there are at least 250 different species of birds and the only binoculars I brought were the Kowa 6.5x32 BDII XD's and they are performing flawlessly. I can spot a lot of birds at once because of the great DOF across the estuaries. A LOT of alligators down here and the weather is a high of 77 degree's and a low of 60 degree's every day. Perfect!

https://www.fws.gov/refuge/JN_Ding_Darling/plan_your_visit/hours.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sbfZ2JqRxw
 
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No, I'm done buying indefinitely. I have to use the FL & CL to infinity
and beyond. Even if I desire something new down the road I won't have the
funds anymore. Also, I'm trying to be more content with what I already have in terms of possessions ;trying to keep it simple.

The 6.5 BD II does look interesting and the new classic Trinovid even
more intriguing.
Beth. I picked up a new Zeiss FL 8x32 and I too had forgotten how good it was. I have a hard time deciding between my Nikon EDG 8x32 and the Zeiss which I like better. The Zeiss FL is a little more WOW because of the bigger FOV. The EDG has a little smoother focuser.
 
Looking around the market place, 6.5x roof prism binoculars are a bit of a rarity to say the least, Meopta’s MeoPro having been discontinued, leaving Viking’s SG model (with a very unhelpful 6.0m close focus) and the much more expensive RSPB 6.5x32 HD (at around £480 versus the Kowa’s £360) which is also significantly heavier. Minox’s BD model is ruled out by its individual focus and Leupold’s Yosemite 6x is a porro as well as being slightly adrift on magnification.

Lee

Thanks for a detailed and comprehensive look at these new Kowas.

One small correction - the price of the RSPB 6.5x32 HD model is now £379 so these do compete on price at least with the Kowas.

The Leica Ultravid 7x42 is reduced to £1299 at RSPB Minsmere - I don't think it takes a genius to work out why these lower power models have been reduced.
 
Thanks for a detailed and comprehensive look at these new Kowas.

One small correction - the price of the RSPB 6.5x32 HD model is now £379 so these do compete on price at least with the Kowas.

Thanks for the info on the price. Much appreciated and I will make a correction to the review.

Lee
 
Beth. I picked up a new Zeiss FL 8x32 and I too had forgotten how good it was. I have a hard time deciding between my Nikon EDG 8x32 and the Zeiss which I like better. The Zeiss FL is a little more WOW because of the bigger FOV. The EDG has a little smoother focuser.

It really is still a top tier bino. I love the view ... very sharp and clean. My focuser is just slightly stiff, but is loosening up a little. It's fine the way it is even if it doesn't loosen any further.

Always wanted to try the 8x32 EDG. I'm sure it's great with glasses and I like the idea of the view being similar to Leica , but with flat field ... that sounds interesting. That's a big (and somewhat heavy) 32mm bino. I don't think I've ever bumped into any birders with one yet. They mostly have the older Monarchs.

You got some great binos (EL, FL , EDG) and with your new 6.5x addition it seems you're covered for any situation.
 
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Hi,

thanks for the review - sounds nice...

Some guy in the german Juelich forum has put his 6.5x32 in the freezer at -20 degrees centigrade for 3h to test handling (focus drive and eyecups were locked at -20 and ok again at around -10) but after it was back to room temperature there is a white line visible permanently in both barrels (left from 1 to 7 o clock and right from 11 to 5).

https://www.juelich-bonn.com/jForum/read.php?9,445463

So we'll see how Kowa handles warranty soon... and maybe use another pair for that trip so Alaska - or that walk through Central Park on a really cold winter day...

Joachim
 
Hi,

thanks for the review - sounds nice...

Some guy in the german Juelich forum has put his 6.5x32 in the freezer at -20 degrees centigrade for 3h to test handling (focus drive and eyecups were locked at -20 and ok again at around -10) but after it was back to room temperature there is a white line visible permanently in both barrels (left from 1 to 7 o clock and right from 11 to 5).

https://www.juelich-bonn.com/jForum/read.php?9,445463

So we'll see how Kowa handles warranty soon... and maybe use another pair for that trip so Alaska - or that walk through Central Park on a really cold winter day...

Joachim

My pair were fine at minus 0.5C one evening in Scotland on the way home from Islay........ that is quite cold enough for me!

Lee
 
My 8x32 pair got down to -15.5 a few days ago and are still doing fine. The center hinge was quite stiff when they were cold but the focus still adjusted fine.
 
No, I'm done buying indefinitely. I have to use the FL & CL to infinity
and beyond. Even if I desire something new down the road I won't have the
funds anymore. Also, I'm trying to be more content with what I already have in terms of possessions ;trying to keep it simple.

The 6.5 BD II does look interesting and the new classic Trinovid even
more intriguing.

Haha - that's fair enough ! :-O
Enjoy :t:


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Chosun :gh:
 
It really is still a top tier bino. I love the view ... very sharp and clean. My focuser is just slightly stiff, but is loosening up a little. It's fine the way it is even if it doesn't loosen any further.

Always wanted to try the 8x32 EDG. I'm sure it's great with glasses and I like the idea of the view being similar to Leica , but with flat field ... that sounds interesting. That's a big (and somewhat heavy) 32mm bino. I don't think I've ever bumped into any birders with one yet. They mostly have the older Monarchs.

You got some great binos (EL, FL , EDG) and with your new 6.5x addition it seems you're covered for any situation.
The only EL I have now is the 12x50 EL FP. It is the best 50mm I have ever used and the glare is not bad on it. It is my big gun. I got tired of the glare on the 8x32 EL and the 10x32 EL. I loved the 10x32 EL until I started seeing the glare in sunlit and high glare situations. The 10x32 EL is the worst of the EL's for glare. I also dumped the 8.5x42 EL because I tried the Nikon 8x42 EDG II and I liked it better. It has less glare and a smoother focuser. The Nikon 8x42 EDG II is logically a little better than the 8x32 EDG II because it brings 70% more light in but the smaller EDG is nice to carry when the light is good. The bigger EDG just has more punch. The Nikon 8x42 EDG II is one heck of an all around binocular if you can only have one. I have the 12x50 SV, 8x42 EDG II, 8x32 EDG II, 8x32 FL, 10x42 BDII XD, 6.5x32 BDII XD, Habicht 8x30 W, Habicht 7x42, Habicht 10x40 W, Nikon 8x30 EII, Canon 10x42 IS-L and the tiny Nikon Micron 7x15 for my pocket binocular. The focuser on my Zeiss 8x32 FL is slightly stiff also but that is the way a greaseless focuser is. Swarovski EL's are the same way. The EDG's use grease. That is why they are so smooth.
 
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I have been using an old Zeiss Dialyt rain guard and while it is not perfect I found it worked reasonably well on Islay.

Here is a pic of the one I mean. It is old-fashioned and clunky-looking but it is very effective and versatile.

Lee

I can't find these ones online. It looks like the only widely available option is the Opticron cover. They are stiff plastic and they make a 44mm version, so it seems like it could be a winner.
 
I can't find these ones online. It looks like the only widely available option is the Opticron cover. They are stiff plastic and they make a 44mm version, so it seems like it could be a winner.

I ordered the Opticron "universal" cover from amazon. Appears to be a direct knockoff of the Zeiss cover and says it has an internal diameter of 44mm. Hopefully it is worth the $15.
 
I wasn’t sure what to expect when I picked up one of these at this year’s British Bird Fair, having only recently become acquainted with the view through a 7x bino, but the huge field of view was intriguing to say the least, and led eventually to this review.

However, perhaps I should first deal with the ‘elephant in the room’ and that is the question of the magnification. It may be that some members are thinking ‘can a 6.5x binocular be useful for anything serious?’ And my answer to this will be a resounding ‘yes’, but those with ‘magnification-anxiety’ should keep in mind that there was a time when Zeiss’s Dialyt 7x42 BGAT* was the premier ‘serious’ birding bino on the market and this Kowa is only 0.5x shy of this magnification, which itself has a steadfast following among Birdforum members.

Looking around the market place, 6.5x roof prism binoculars are a bit of a rarity to say the least, Meopta’s MeoPro having been discontinued, leaving Viking’s SG model (with a very unhelpful 6.0m close focus) and the RSPB 6.5x32 HD which is significantly heavier. Minox’s BD model is ruled out by its individual focus and Leupold’s Yosemite 6x is a porro as well as being slightly adrift on magnification.

The Kowa’s particular claim to fame is its field of view at a faintly staggering 10deg/175m/525ft/65deg AFOV. If you measure value for money based on the amount of the world you can see through binoculars, then the 24,056 square metres field of view at 1,000m promises great value indeed.

Looking at the Kowa on the shelf alongside a few other models and it is immediately recognisable as a Kowa with the same green armour as their more famous Genesis 8x33 and a metallic-looking focus wheel that Kowa Japan, via Kowa Optimed in Duesseldorf, assures me is aluminium, as is the one on the Genesis. Unlike that model the wheel is silvery in colour as opposed to the Genesis’s dark grey, and the cap on the wheel carries the company logo and other information in a very high-quality print on embossed letters, giving the whole display a 3D character. In company with the aluminium focus wheel, and aluminium endcap on the hinge, these, to my eyes, gives the model a quality appearance well above its asking price. It is a handsome model and is really quite short and compact. For example while Swarovski’s EL 8x32 is 138mm long, Meopta’s MeoStar is 123mm, Leica’s Ultravid HD Plus is 119mm and Zeiss’s FL 8x32 is 117mm, the Kowa sneaks underneath them all at 116mm, or about 4.5 inches long. Take a look at the accompanying pic of the BD II next to the Genesis 8x33, which is 133mm long, and you can see the difference in length.

As for weight, the Kowa comes in at 535g or 18.9ozs, and for comparison, Leica’s Trinovid HD 8x32 weighs 650g and both the Viking and RSPB models, mentioned above, weigh 600g. So the Kowa is compact and light, attributes I found useful in urban settings if I wanted to tuck the Kowa out of sight under my jacket to be more discrete. I will return to its urban uses later but for now will consider its optics and its abilities for nature observation.

For a start, the BD II’s chromatic aberration control is at a very high level indeed and with my eyes carefully placed on the optical axis I found only the very slightest of traces at the extreme edge of the field of view. For all practical purposes this bino has no CA. The sweet spot of the huge field of view is about 60% after which there is a gradual softening of the image caused by field curvature. Nudge the focus wheel a little towards infinity and the field edges come into focus, so if any movement at the edge attracts your attention, a slight movement of your finger is all that is needed to see what caused it. Perceived sharpness is excellent and the colours almost neutral to my eyes, with just slight favouring of blue. However this is nothing to be concerned about, and quite possibly assists the quality of the view in the twilight, but more of that later.

Now, how did it perform in the field?

Let’s look at birding first. At short distances of, say, 15m or so, I found myself lifting them to look at a single bird in a flock perched in trees or bushes and being able to see half the flock as well as the chosen individual. Plumage details on Blue Tits and Chaffinches were easily discernible, and while I know it is sometimes nice for a shallow depth of field to isolate a single bird from its background, I did find the depth of field and reduced telephoto-compression added greatly to the feeling spaciousness, and placed the subject nicely in the context of its habitat. On the Isle of Islay an immature Oystercatcher, with its neck collar easily visible, made an attractive subject at about 30m and later the same day, a Curlew flying low and directly overhead gave a superb view of the markings on its breast, secondaries and primaries. It was a gorgeous checkerboard of intricate markings and a huge piece of luck, but not as huge as the luck that delivered a most unexpected subject a couple of days later.

I was washing dishes at the time and glanced across the hill to the corner of a dry-stone wall about 130m away and my eyes nearly bulged enough to knock my spectacles off my nose. The nearest binoculars happened to be the Kowas and they revealed a superb view of a Golden Eagle perched on the wall. Golden head, pale patch on the coverts, longish tail, and just so whopping big with a capital B! We have never seen one perched so close and of course if we had been outside and it had seen us, it wouldn’t have been perched there at all. Well, the Kowas captured it beautifully, its plumage like a Scottish autumn hillside with more tones of brown than you can imagine, and did I mention how big it was? When the sunlight glanced on its golden head, for a moment it looked like it was on fire, and then it was gone, lazily powering over the hill, and disappearing behind a ridge.

Now, here came a nice surprise. Rather than the 6.5x magnification resulting in a smaller image than I would like, looking a bit lost in the middle of a huge field of view, the eagle stood out from the background due to the depth of field and reduced compression, and floated across the view looking absolutely in context and the right size, within the overall image. In fact the distances both behind it and in front of it were so discernible, I almost felt as though I could reach out and put my hand into the space behind the eagle. Yes, I could just have said this was due to the ‘3D’, but that wouldn’t have done justice to the tangible spaciousness of the view.

What about smaller birds? While walking along the shore one day my attention was grabbed by a glimpse of startling yellow in the distance, where a few Ringed Plovers were exploring the stranded seaweed. Stepping to one side a little to get a different angle the Kowas found me a Grey Wagtail, doing exactly what the Ringed Plovers were doing. These birds have an elegant grey mantle but under the back of the belly they have patch of intense yellow. Normally they frequent running fresh-water, and there are a few streams (called ‘burns’ in Scotland’) like this nearby, but this individual was well away from these, something we have never seen before. Its yellow belly stood out like a neon light as it moved over the dark seaweed.

Many times during our visit, I got the chance to view Brown Hares at close and medium distances, mostly during twilight conditions, and once again the optical characteristics, with good transmission of blue light, delivered very pleasing images of these animals, their facial and ear patterns being visible even as the light got dimmer and dimmer.

After several days like this I realised that at no point had I ever wished for a higher magnification, and as we explored our local coast in greater detail the Kowas got used for more purposes.

For example when we were searching for the many and varied fungi, some of which had the appearance of regular mushrooms, while others were tiny and more like sticks of ebony or pasta, I found the Kowas invaluable for scanning quite big areas of grassland and rocky outcrops quickly and efficiently. I think they would be brilliant for surveying for small flowers in sensitive habitats such as bogs and wetlands too. In addition, Islay having some of the most intriguing and ancient rock formations in the world, the Kowas were great for gazing at large areas of volcanic dykes and twisted strata, and thinking about the eons that these rocks took to journey across the globe, from Antarctica to where Scotland is today.

Away from the coast, I carried the Kowas and used them as a tourist might. For example in the town of Bowmore I used them to look at the architecture of the round church there. Round? Yes, the church is perfectly circular. Why? So that there are no corners in which the devil can hide! I wished I had had these binos with me when I visited Paris, Munich and Torino on business so that I could have looked at the architecture of the many fine buildings there, and gazed through them at views from high points over those cities such as from Montmartre looking across Paris. In fact they would have been great for viewing Victoria Falls in Zimbabwe as the Dialyt 10x40BGAT* I had with me was fine for birding, but not for capturing panoramic views.

I also took them into the Outback Art Gallery at Sanaigmore to look at paintings there. Anyone who has visited an art gallery will know that the authorities do not encourage you to touch the artworks even if all you want to do is to admire the brushstrokes, and the security staff only relax when you stand further away. I did this in the gallery, taking advantage of the close-focusing distance, and found that, despite the close distances, the wide field of view allowed examination of decent sections of the paintings and the texture of the canvasses, papers and boards that the artists had used, as well as the brush strokes and oils-textures that they employed.

With their wide field of view, I can imagine that they would also be very useful for viewing many sports. Certainly cricket and baseball, possibly even horse-racing, and they would allow golfers to not only watch the swing of Tiger Woods or Rory McIlroy but also to follow the balls through the air to their destination.

Are there any downsides? Only the rain-guard (ocular guard) which, as has been mentioned elsewhere on Birdforum, fits so tightly around the eyecups that it is impossible to get it easily and quickly on and off. This means rain gets on the ocular lenses and not only spoils the view through the binoculars, but also tempts you to wipe off the raindrops, risking scratching the lenses if there are dust or sand particles from previous days’ outings, hidden by the raindrops. On the other hand there are plenty of aftermarket guards to solve this issue but if you go down this route take care the replacement guard is big enough to slide on and off the eyecups easily, as they have a bigger outer diameter than most at 43.5mm. For comparison, Zeiss’s Conquest HD 8x32 eyecups are 39.95mm, Leica’s Ultravid HD’s are 38mm and Meopta’s B1 10x32’s are 35mm.

My conclusion is that these binoculars are extremely versatile, having proved themselves to be fine companions in a wide variety of circumstances ranging from birding and twilight mammal observation, through fungi spotting and geology, to tourist duties such as admiring buildings, paintings and panoramas in cities and on coasts. I am confident they would be super at sporting events, and although this has been the wrong time of year to test them out on butterflies and dragonflies, I am certain they would excel at this too. Anyone looking for a compact and versatile pair of binoculars for a modest outlay should give these a try.


Lee

https://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=383660
So ~1/3 or 8019 square metres of that Fov is blurry?
I thought the whole go with the lower mag 6.5x was to trade off image size for more dof - thus having more of the field in focus? Field curvature must be pretty wild and woolly if even the 6.5x's inherent dof can't rescue it ....... :cat:

Nice proximity to the GE - but I'm fascinated to hear more about you doing the washing up Lee ! :eek!: :-O





Chosun :gh:
 
Chosen, what glass do you own actually, you provide some great insight and comments but you never state any glass you own except the Zen Ray, is that your only glass?

Andy W.
 
Chosen, what glass do you own actually, you provide some great insight and comments but you never state any glass you own except the Zen Ray, is that your only glass?

Andy W.

I tell ya what Audrey ....... you learn to spell my name right, and I might just tell ya ;)




Chosun :gh:
 
Andy - it's no secret :flyaway: :cat:
https://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?p=3845408#post3845408
https://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?p=3920817#post3920817

Nothing's changed.

I was looking at some geewhizzits way up in the canopy (25-30m) the other day and they were flitting out of the Fov - and the thought occurred to me that I'd like something wider than the Zen's 142m but still at 8x (or 8.5x) and 42mm. Something like the 10° field of the little 6.5x Kowa sounds interesting but lacks the power and field quality. There's nothing suitable that's been made yet.

There's the excellently made and fantastic to hold (nearly as good as the Zen, but welcomely lighter) Nikon 8x42 MHG - but I'd really want sharper optics, a bit more brightness, and aberration control, and a knurled metal focusing wheel that was slightly faster.

Then there's the Zeiss 8x42 SF - but I don't like the contrived ergonomics , lack of blue transmission, or the green ham colour rendition, the cheap as chips looking and feeling eyecups, or the slow focuser which is none too smart - and again it needs a knurled metal focusing wheel. It's also heavier than the Zen. The Fov though is pretty nice and about the best out there for the :eek!::eek!: among us ..... I may even want a bit more than that though :cat:

So that's the state of play - don't worry be happy ! :D





Chosun :gh:


P.S. I have to override the stoopid autocorrect on my phone which still doesn't know my own name about half the time anyway ! :eek!: :cat: :-O
 
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Thanks Lee for the great review! And the pics!

That’s one of the few binocular’s I AM tempted by. Especially me being a 7Xish fan. I’m also intrigued by the new/old Trinovid. I haven’t bought a binocular in SEVERAL months!!
 
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