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Old Friday 17th April 2009, 09:04   #1
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Two from Barbados

1. This is baffling me. Probably an easy ID but I am totally stuck. The closest I have got is Northern Mockingbird but (a) not found on Barbados and (b) don't think has an orange lower mandible.

2. Could you help with ID based on profile. From Wikipedia, there are only 3 raptors found on Barbados (apart from accidentals) - Osprey, Northern Harrier and Peregrine. Can discount Osprey (I think). My inclination is for Peregrine but has the straight tail of a Northern Harrier.

Your thoughts greatly appreciated.

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Old Friday 17th April 2009, 09:14   #2
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The raptor is a Peregrine
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The raptor is a Peregrine
Northern Harrier has a longer tail.

And, sorry, I can't help you with the other bird.

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Old Friday 17th April 2009, 11:38   #4
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1. This is baffling me. Probably an easy ID but I am totally stuck. The closest I have got is Northern Mockingbird but (a) not found on Barbados and (b) don't think has an orange lower mandible.
How about Caribbean elaenia? Proportions look about right. Hint of double wingbars although the detail level isn't great. Any more images? Can you post the original image?
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How about Caribbean elaenia? Proportions look about right. Hint of double wingbars although the detail level isn't great. Any more images? Can you post the original image?
Seems to fit nicely, note the pink bill base -

http://alfredo.colon.oiseaux.net/ele...e.1.html#monde
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/236/4...991f1b.jpg?v=0
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Thanks guys,
That was the original image, Esmond (sob) apart from being cropped.

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The stance looks mockingbird like (and in Barbados, that would have to be tropical mockingbird) rather than elaenia like, but I think that is one of the cases where a single picture shows something less common; I agree on C Elaenia as the most likely.

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I would also say it is an Elaenia.
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