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Old Thursday 7th May 2020, 04:49   #26
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I look at Hants Moths Flying Tonight when I can't ID a moth from the field guide - often the thumbnail photos enlarge into something close, and the numbers column helps with judging likelihood. I say often, I probably check half a dozen moths a year. It's a resource, but I don't spend more time on it than I need to.

I need Streamer!

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I think it is excellent resource & found this site so useful in learning moths, concentrating on those I'was most likely to see. Though I'm based around London it would be similar apart from maybe heathland species. Over a couple of years & regularly attending mothing sessions & looking at moth photos from peoples catches, my ID skills have dramatically improved.
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Old Thursday 7th May 2020, 06:51   #27
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I think it is excellent resource & found this site so useful in learning moths, concentrating on those I'was most likely to see. Though I'm based around London it would be similar apart from maybe heathland species. Over a couple of years & regularly attending mothing sessions & looking at moth photos from peoples catches, my ID skills have dramatically improved.
See, I'm not at the stage of learning moths. Its something to keep the interest going when there are no birds - hence this is the first year I've trapped in April/May. I look at what comes into the trap and if its repeated often enough I get the hang of it eventually.

Anyway, just three this morning (and two May Bugs):

Pale Tussock
Treble Lines - year tick
May Highflyer - year tick, not photographed previously

Better than nothing, two for the year one a photo-tick.

My big worry at the moment is I keep thinking about the bee field guide....

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Old Thursday 7th May 2020, 07:42   #28
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See, I'm not at the stage of learning moths. Its something to keep the interest going when there are no birds - hence this is the first year I've trapped in April/May. I look at what comes into the trap and if its repeated often enough I get the hang of it eventually.

Anyway, just three this morning (and two May Bugs):

Pale Tussock
Treble Lines - year tick
May Highflyer - year tick, not photographed previously

Better than nothing, two for the year one a photo-tick.

My big worry at the moment is I keep thinking about the bee field guide....

Cheers

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Go on John get the bee guide! As I've not been work & won't now be doing any foreign trips this year I've been concentrating on learning some more bees (I've known some of the obvious ones for a while) & improving my hoverfly knowledge. I've no interest in dissecting things so will never ID all of them + some are really tiny so will be lucky to get beyond genus.

Though I'm an obviously keen birder I've always been an all round naturalist so try to look at as many things that are around me. Just wish I didn't forget things!
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Old Thursday 7th May 2020, 08:30   #29
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All I got on Monday night was a Treble Lines and a Coxcomb Prominent.

I've been trapping for about 10 years now and I trapped my first Streamers on 12th April this year, two together. Its what I like about moths, you never know what might turn up.

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Go on John get the bee guide! As I've not been work & won't now be doing any foreign trips this year I've been concentrating on learning some more bees (I've known some of the obvious ones for a while) & improving my hoverfly knowledge. I've no interest in dissecting things so will never ID all of them + some are really tiny so will be lucky to get beyond genus.

Though I'm an obviously keen birder I've always been an all round naturalist so try to look at as many things that are around me. Just wish I didn't forget things!
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Old Thursday 7th May 2020, 09:52   #31
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I need Streamer for my garden (and either of the previous two) but have caught it in a more rural garden I used to have access to.

In case anyone has not seen it there is an excellent summary of the national moth season so far on the Birdguides website - not sure if it is freely accessible or not though. Written by Steve Whitehouse and some very well chosen photos.

And just one moth for me last night, Cinnabar NFY. Tonight could be better.

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Tonight looks warmer at least. The problem here is that a clear night is forecast and its a full supermoon tonight.

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Old Thursday 7th May 2020, 12:08   #33
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As a brilliant resource for sorting out what is in the trap (being new to mothing) I find the Flight Arrivals Norfolk Moths site wonderful. Especially given that it has large pics and a day by day record. It really narrows down what is about and saves lots of page flicking through a book (although I then check the book afterwards).
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As a brilliant resource for sorting out what is in the trap (being new to mothing) I find the Flight Arrivals Norfolk Moths site wonderful. Especially given that it has large pics and a day by day record. It really narrows down what is about and saves lots of page flicking through a book (although I then check the book afterwards).
Its just occurred to me that what I do is not learn the moths, I learn the book. So page flicking actually works really quickly because I know generally where I'm going.

Notwithstanding which these record-based what to expect day-by-day webpages for counties are really useful, especially for any moth not quite like the book illustration.

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Had my first Mint Moth in the garden for the season this morning. While on my walk this afternoon added Water Veneer, Mother Shipton & Burnet Companion..
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Eyed Hawk-moth = gorgeous!

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I got that last year for the first time in 16 years of trapping, still haven't had Small Elephant.
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Four moths this morning, and three May Bugs.

Oak Hook-tip was NFY, otherwise one each of Common Pug, Green Carpet and Pale Tussock. Not big numbers but a class catch.

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Not perhaps as good as I hoped in Herts. 17 moths. 3 Brimstone, 3 LB Apple Moths, Pale Tussock, Small Waved Umber, Lime Hawk, Cinnabar, Bee Moth, Double-striped Pug, 2 White-shouldered House Moth and a few worn Pugs. But, the Brit tick for me was Scalloped Hazel.
Fingers crossed for tonight, temp looks reasonable.
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Another meagre catch but at least it takes my total for the year past a hundred - 102 of 32 species.

Micros -
LBAM 4
TA 2 (just being awkward - Tachystola acroxantha)
Macros -
Brimstone 2 (NFY)
Bright-line Brown-eye (NFY)
Pale Mottled Willow (NFY)

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Old Friday 8th May 2020, 16:54   #41
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I think a new garden moth for me - burnet companion. But it had disappeared by the time I got my camera. I did get a nettle-tap.
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New for year last night: Willow Beauty;
micropterix calthella on my local patch today.

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Not many moths again last night (five May Bugs though!)

Knot Grass and Willow Beauty NFY, two Shuttle-shaped Darts and a Brindled Pug.

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My best night yet. 22 species, from 29 moths (but 4 still in fridge to do). 13 garden ticks, 2 life ticks. Barred Hook-tip was interesting, so was the micro Tachystola acroxantha. Coptotriche marginea wins the smallest prize at 3.5mm.
At least a week of low temperature coming after tonight sadly.
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Not many moths again last night (five May Bugs though!)

Knot Grass and Willow Beauty NFY, two Shuttle-shaped Darts and a Brindled Pug.

John
Surprised and disappointed. I'm counting on you guys to give me some vicarious interest whilst I'm hors de combat. Even up here six miles from the notoriously cold North Sea, with the window wide open, I had trouble sleeping because of the humidity last night.
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Still rubbish here, 3 moths, S-s Dart and Scalloped Hazel x2.
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Found two more lifers from last night in the fridge bits. Red Twin-spot Carpet and Tinea trinotella.
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Thursday nights catch was 17 moths of 12 species. Buff Tip, Green Carpet, Pale Tussock, Chinese Character and Shuttle-shaped Dart were all new for year.

Last night was a big improvement. Least Black Arches was new for garden and a Dewicks Plusia was only my second, the first was in September 2013.

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Thursday nights catch was 17 moths of 12 species. Buff Tip, Green Carpet, Pale Tussock, Chinese Character and Shuttle-shaped Dart were all new for year.

Last night was a big improvement. Least Black Arches was new for garden and a Dewicks Plusia was only my second, the first was in September 2013.

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That's a pretty rare migrant, any pics?
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That's a pretty rare migrant, any pics?
When I got my first one it was only the 7th Norfolk record. Now though, they are more numerous. Last year there were 30 records in Norfolk and 4 of those had 2 moths. They are now believed to be breeding in Norfolk. I'm not sure about the rest of the country as I rarely look at other county sites.

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