Nick Rossiter said:
As i understand it, Nick has been offered the chance to have someone independently check things out, but for reasons best known to himself refuses the offers. I dont have an axe to grind with Nick but it is hard work trying to deal with this situation as he steadfastly refuses to accept what the majority of people are saying about his Honeys, namely that nearly all of them are Commons. Nick, if you take Franky up on his offer you will at least be showing that you are willing to try and put this to bedFranky70 said:
I agree, the figures that Nick quotes for young fledged last season are a signifigant percentage of the UK totals. Yet he would have us believe that he can find six nests yet manages to see these other juveniles up and flying around for fun to bump up his total. It is my experience that post fledging young Honeys spend most of their time below the canopy. If he found six nests then surely there is some photograpic or video evidence. Or doesnt he check the nests? If this is the case then whats the point in having a license to check nests, better off sharing the info with people who can climb them to weigh and measure the clutches and juveniles.If this is done and there are the number of Honeys there that Nick claims then i will be the first to offer my appologies, but i wont be holding my breathLondon Birder said:
It's like SWIFT in reverse! We can call it the Society for the Transmission of Raptor Information that's Not Genuine (STRING for short).Tim Allwood said:
Hi Sonic, it has gone on a while, its not even a debate. What Nick has are a load of common buzzards, he's been told that by any number of people who work on Honeys and know what they look like, but he just wont be told. These birds are hard to find and you spend days and days trying to get an angle on them, yet if you look at Nicks website it would appear he only has to walk in a wood and there's a Honey. We do that in the local woods down here and we see Northumberland Honeys everywhere too, the only difference is we call them what they are COMMON BUZZARDS 3sonic said:
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Steve G said:
Never mind deciding on the odd photo, trawl through his website and read the figures for fledged young and not a photo or scrap of evidence in sight. Perhaps Nick would like to come on an tell everyone how many of his Honey records have been accepted. Also explain how he thinks one of the countries foremost HONEY field workers can't actually id these birds. He must be doing something right as we lucked upon some fresh greenery in a tree not more than four hours ago. Over to you Nick, lets have it out in the open , not threatening pm telling me to stop or you'll get dirty. As for climbing your nests email me a photo of one to prove it aint going to be a wasted journey and i'll come uptheshark said:
im nearer valley boy ill watch all day with him and tell him to his face that these birds are(very) common buzzards.
wtf. just leave him to sad obsession.the worst kind of birder is one who cannot take advice.
strange the rspb has not set up a watchpoint.. oh i forgot honey buzzards and hobbys are much more common where he goes than common buzzards and hobbys.
