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Old Saturday 20th August 2011, 16:14   #1
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Ardeidae

The HeronConservation website includes useful species accounts (perhaps based on Kushlan & Hancock 2005?), and a taxonomic overview.

[Thanks to Luis Gonzalo Morales for posting on NEOORN.]

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Diana da Silva, 2011. Considerações taxonômicas em Ardeidae (Aves), com base na osteologia. Tesis de Maestría, Universidade de São Paulo.
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M. PÄCKERT, J. HERING, E. FUCHS, P. BARTHEL & W. HEIM: Genetic barcoding confirms first breeding record of the Yellow Bittern, Ixobrychus sinensis, (Aves: Pelecaniformes, Ardeidae) in the Western Palearctic. VERTEBRATE ZOOLOGY 64 (2) 2014.

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The bitterns have been rearranged based on Päckert et al. (2014). I've also added subfamilies to the Ardeidae.

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Xiaoping Zhou, Qingxian Lin, Wenzhen Fang and Xiaolin Chen, 2014. The complete mitochondrial genomes of sixteen ardeid birds revealing the evolutionary process of the gene rearrangements. BMC Genomics 2014, 15:573. Published: 8 July 2014.

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Bubulcus ibis

Emmanuel Moralez-Silva, Sílvia Nassif Del Lama. Colonization of Brazil by the cattle egret (Bubulcus ibis) revealed by mitochondrial DNA. NeoBiota 21: 49–63 (2014).

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Xiaoping Zhou, Qingxian Lin, Wenzhen Fang and Xiaolin Chen, 2014. The complete mitochondrial genomes of sixteen ardeid birds revealing the evolutionary process of the gene rearrangements. BMC Genomics 2014, 15:573. Published: 8 July 2014.

(Provisional) abstract and PDF here
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The Ardeinae have been rearranged based on Zhou et al. (2014).
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Gorsachius night herons

Zhou, Yao, Lin, Fang & Chen (in press). Complete mitochondrial genomes render the Night Heron genus Gorsachius non-monophyletic. J Ornithol. [abstract]
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Intermediate Egret

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Xiaoping Zhou, Qingxian Lin, Wenzhen Fang and Xiaolin Chen, 2014. The complete mitochondrial genomes of sixteen ardeid birds revealing the evolutionary process of the gene rearrangements. BMC Genomics 2014, 15:573. Published: 8 July 2014.

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IOC Update Diary Feb 12

Move Intermediate Egret from Egretta to Ardea
The paper references 'Ardea ibis' - is the abandonment of Bubulcus a certainty? Is there another paper that has settled that aspect? If so, do the samples actually apply to 'Ardea coromandus'?
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...and another thing (or two)! I dislike their reference system, which is non-alphabetic, but in the sequence mentioned in the text. It makes trawling through the reference list tedious in the extreme when looking for an author. Also, the habit of placing the publication year towards the end of a reference again makes searching tedious.
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The paper references 'Ardea ibis' - is the abandonment of Bubulcus a certainty? Is there another paper that has settled that aspect? If so, do the samples actually apply to 'Ardea coromandus'?
Their Fig.2 puts 'Ardea ibis' as basal to the rest of Ardea, so a merge isn't necessary for monophyletic phylogeny; that IOC are investigating a move for Intermediate Egret but not for the cattle egrets suggests IOC consider it isn't a good idea.
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Move Intermediate Egret from Egretta to Ardea
See Sangster et al 2016 (BOURC-TSC 11) for more discussion.

(Also implemented by van den Berg 2016).
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Naive question

Is it possible (conceivable) to treat Casmerodius and Mesophoyx as subgenus of Ardea ?
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Naive question

Is it possible (conceivable) to treat Casmerodius and Mesophoyx as subgenus of Ardea ?
I don't see why not. But their circumscriptions might have to remain provisional until the rest of the species in the genus have been analysed.
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Gorsachius

Fenqi He,Cheng Wen,Jiansheng Lin, et al. A brief on the current occurrence of Gorsachius spp. in mainland China[J]. Zoological Systematics, 2016, 41(3): 315-317.

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Any word/research of when the Intermediate Egret will be split into three different species? The three races are quite distinct from each other.
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Any word/research of when the Intermediate Egret will be split into three different species? The three races are quite distinct from each other.
HBW alive (del Hoyo et al.: HBW and BirdLife International Illustrated Checklist of the Birds of the World):

Intermediate Egret (Ardea intermedia)

Yellow-billed Egret (Ardea brachyrhyncha)

Plumed Egret (Ardea plumifera)

Yellow-billed and Plumed Egrets are not recognized by IOC, H&M, Clements and TiF checklists.
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HBW alive (del Hoyo et al.: HBW and BirdLife International Illustrated Checklist of the Birds of the World):

Intermediate Egret (Ardea intermedia)

Yellow-billed Egret (Ardea brachyrhyncha)

Plumed Egret (Ardea plumifera)

Yellow-billed and Plumed Egrets are not recognized by IOC, H&M, Clements and TiF checklists.
The BirdLife Datazone also recognises these splits.
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Thanks for the info. An Intermediate Egret proper was seen in Perth earlier this year.
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Z.H. Huang, M.F. Li and J.W. Qin. DNA barcoding and phylogenetic relationships of Ardeidae (Aves: Ciconiiformes). Genet. Mol. Res. 15 (3).

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The avian family Ardeidae comprises long-legged freshwater and coastal birds. There has been considerable disagreement concerning the intrafamilial relationships of Ardeidae. Mitochondrial cytochrome c oxidase subunit I (COI) was used as a marker for the identification and phylogenetic analysis of avian species. In the present study, we analyzed the COI barcodes of 32 species from 17 genera belonging to the family Ardeidae. Each bird species possessed a barcode distinct from that of other bird species except for Egretta thula and E. garzetta, which shared one barcoding sequence. Kimura two-parameter distances were calculated between barcodes. The average genetic distance between species was 34-fold higher than the average genetic distance within species. Neighbor-joining and maximum likelihood methods were used to construct phylogenetic trees. Most species could be discriminated by their distinct clades in the phylogenetic tree. Both methods of phylogenetic reconstruction suggested that Zebrilus, Tigrisoma, and Cochlearius were an offshoot of the primitive herons. COI gene analysis suggested that the other herons could be divided into two clades: Botaurinae and Ardeinae. Our results support the Great Egret and Intermediate Egret being in separate genera, Casmerodius and Mesophoyx, respectively.

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HBW alive (del Hoyo et al.: HBW and BirdLife International Illustrated Checklist of the Birds of the World):

Intermediate Egret (Ardea intermedia)

Yellow-billed Egret (Ardea brachyrhyncha)

Plumed Egret (Ardea plumifera)

Yellow-billed and Plumed Egrets are not recognized by IOC, H&M, Clements and TiF checklists.
The diary page wasn't updated but the IOC proposed split page http://www.worldbirdnames.org/updates/proposed-splits/ contains:

PS 6.4 ‘Yellow-billed’ Egret Ardea brachyrhyncha Intermediate Egret Ardea intermedia HBW Alive, BirdLife; ENG?
PS 6.4 Plumed Egret Ardea plumifera Intermediate Egret Ardea intermedia HBW Alive, BirdLife
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Z.H. Huang, M.F. Li and J.W. Qin. DNA barcoding and phylogenetic relationships of Ardeidae (Aves: Ciconiiformes). Genet. Mol. Res. 15 (3).

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The avian family Ardeidae comprises long-legged freshwater and coastal birds. There has been considerable disagreement concerning the intrafamilial relationships of Ardeidae. Mitochondrial cytochrome c oxidase subunit I (COI) was used as a marker for the identification and phylogenetic analysis of avian species. In the present study, we analyzed the COI barcodes of 32 species from 17 genera belonging to the family Ardeidae. Each bird species possessed a barcode distinct from that of other bird species except for Egretta thula and E. garzetta, which shared one barcoding sequence. Kimura two-parameter distances were calculated between barcodes. The average genetic distance between species was 34-fold higher than the average genetic distance within species. Neighbor-joining and maximum likelihood methods were used to construct phylogenetic trees. Most species could be discriminated by their distinct clades in the phylogenetic tree. Both methods of phylogenetic reconstruction suggested that Zebrilus, Tigrisoma, and Cochlearius were an offshoot of the primitive herons. COI gene analysis suggested that the other herons could be divided into two clades: Botaurinae and Ardeinae. Our results support the Great Egret and Intermediate Egret being in separate genera, Casmerodius and Mesophoyx, respectively.

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Ixobrychus involucris close to Botaurus species rather than true Ixobrychus.

Are these two genera so different after all to suggest the possibility to keep one genus ( i. e. Botaurus) ?

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Ixobrychus involucris close to Botaurus species rather than true Ixobrychus.

Are these two genera so different after all to suggest the possibility to keep one genus ( i. e. Botaurus) ?
Looking at Peter's phylo tree, I guess one could, though it would be a large genus compared to others in the family. But more sense to transfer Ixobrychus involucris to Botaurus; looking at pics of it, it doesn't look much like the other Ixobrychus spp (e.g. no pale forewing patch), but more like a Botaurus in plumage pattern, though not size.
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Looking at Peter's phylo tree, I guess one could, though it would be a large genus compared to others in the family. But more sense to transfer Ixobrychus involucris to Botaurus; looking at pics of it, it doesn't look much like the other Ixobrychus spp (e.g. no pale forewing patch), but more like a Botaurus in plumage pattern, though not size.
If they had included I. exilis (Least Bittern) in their data set, they'd have recovered it much closer to Botaurus, and with better support, than I. involucris. See Päckert et al. 2014 (link in [post #3] above).
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I expect the return of Ardetta, Dupetor and Ardeirallus (based on Päckert & al. tree). For involucris and exilis, I have no idea .
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I expect the return of Ardetta, Dupetor and Ardeirallus (based on Päckert & al. tree). For involucris and exilis, I have no idea .
Isn't the type of Ardetta the same as for Ixobrychus? (I. minuta/us)

Nannocnus, Stejneger, 1887 (type = eurhythmus) seems to be available for the most divergent group (eurhythmus + cinnamomeus).
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