Anyone hear if there is plans to release it in uk or when that might be ?
I have to say also, that I really don't like the style they've adopted, super imposing images over a background, not for me.
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I just looked at this, it's only North American birds and it's also marketed at hunters.....
If I were being cynical, I'd wonder if targeting the large, hunting culture in NA whilst stating conservation aims, is just a cold, marketing ploy to increase sales?
I have to say also, that I really don't like the style they've adopted, super imposing images over a background, not for me.
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I have yet to meet a hunter that read bird ID books.
Sorry but I've never bought this justification of hunting by citing conservation.
How does duck hunting, aid conservation?
If an introduced species is doing damage to the native fauna, such as certain Deer species in the UK, I can accept a need for controllibg them but I can never accept 'hobby' hunting. Sky news carried an article last night where some dumb American with too much money, took about six shots to kill an old Bull Elephant in Namibia. Having put numerous rounds in to the now grounded beast, he then had the huge challenge, of getting down on one knee from about three yards, for the kill shot, sickening.
Conservation was the main justification for hunting in Namibia in this piece and a big deal was made of the Elephant being hacked to pieces to be distributed among the locals.
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I just looked at this, it's only North American birds and it's also marketed at hunters.....
Of course the extreme end is hard to avoid - you don't want to turn it into grouse or pheasant shoots where the focus becomes so great on a handful of target species that the protections swing so far to the extreme to protect those species at the cost of others
Completely agree! To me the people attracted to those shoots are not hunters, and most of the hunters I know would agree.
Niels
This is a hugely inaccurate statement. I know lots of hunters who are highly skilled nature lovers and even birders. I was one myself until I gave up hunting. Bag limits are often linked to species and therefore the hunter has to know what he /she is shooting. There are lots of organizations that work hard to conserve habitat, Ducks Unlimited is one example but there are lots of other local clubs and groups.I have yet to meet a hunter that would read a bird ID book. Around here they have no idea what species they are shooting at. “What’s hit is hit”.
This is a hugely inaccurate statement. I know lots of hunters who are highly skilled nature lovers and even birders. I was one myself until I gave up hunting. Bag limits are often linked to species and therefore the hunter has to know what he /she is shooting. There are lots of organizations that work hard to conserve habitat, Ducks Unlimited is one example but there are lots of other local clubs and groups.
So I take it you know the people I know? And where did I state they don’t care about the birds habitats? There is a lot I could say about the the killing of protected raptors and the setting of traps but I’ll leave it for now as the authorities are aware. I think across the pond it may be different to here in Yorkshire.
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