Do you Leica's do this? (1 Viewer)

BirdingTom · Jul 13, 2020

Hi Guys,

New birder here

I bought bins last Friday, and spotted my first 6 birds on the weekend.:king: Absolutely wrapped, although very green.

Just wondering if you guys can set my mind at ease with a minor issue. My binos (Leica Trinovid HD 8x42) have a metal part under the focus wheel which rotates freely left and right and makes a clicking sound (pictured). Do you Leica's do the same? Considering if I need to do a swap out or not.Perhaps its totally normal and yours do the same, I am very green after all:-O

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Thank you kindly,

BirdingTom

Foss · Jul 13, 2020

I'm afraid something's wrong, BirdingTom. Here's the underview of mine.

james holdsworth · Jul 13, 2020

Looks like a dust baffle, and it should move free from the focus.

BirdingTom · Jul 13, 2020

Foss said:
I'm afraid something's wrong, BirdingTom. Here's the underview of mine.

|:S| Oh no! Back to the store for me. Appreciate you guys both checking.

Just to confirm, the dust baffle just stays in place for you guys? Doesn’t turn with the focus wheel at all? Just making sure I tell the store the right thing. :t:

Thanks again,

BirdingTom

Foss · Jul 14, 2020

No, the baffle does not turn on mine. Nothing but the focus wheel turns. Did you purchase them new?

BirdingTom · Jul 14, 2020

Foss said:
No, the baffle does not turn on mine. Nothing but the focus wheel turns. Did you purchase them new?

Yep sure did. I returned them to the store who offered to replace them. Unfortunately they didn’t have any Trinovid’s in stock and sold me Ultravid HD Plus’s at a (much) higher price instead.

Pretty happy with them overall. Must say the focus no where near as glassy smooth as the Trinovids, which was weird to me considering they are twice the price. I think the Ultravid’s have a lubricant-free focus over the Trinovids.

BirdingTom

Canip · Jul 14, 2020

BirdingTom said:
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Correct (and you will like it a lot at the South Pole at -45 Celsius

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BirdingTom · Jul 15, 2020

Canip said:
Correct (and you will like it a lot at the South Pole at -45 Celsius )

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I suspect I will have bigger concerns at -45c.

Slightly off topic at this point, but warranted. I’m concerned I’m becoming a Binophile (is that a thing?). Noticed buildings were bending around the edges. Did my own research and learnt about the globe effect and added pincushion distortion. Fascinating stuff!

tenex · Jul 15, 2020

BirdingTom said:
I’m concerned I’m becoming a Binophile (is that a thing?). Noticed buildings were bending around the edges. Did my own research and learnt about the globe effect and added pincushion distortion. Fascinating stuff!

Welcome to the thing. There are few straight lines in nature apart from the horizon, but many people have strong opinions about panning behavior. Try a bino with a lot of pincusion (e.g. Leica) alongside another with little (e.g. Swaro) and see how you get on. My own preference is for mild pincushion as in my SLC 56 (and the Trinovid BR, as the exception among Leicas) but they all work for me.

NDhunter · Jul 16, 2020

BirdingTom said:
3I suspect I will have bigger concerns at -45c.

Slightly off topic at this point, but warranted. I’m concerned I’m becoming a Binophile (is that a thing?). Noticed buildings were bending around the edges. Did my own research and learnt about the globe effect and added pincushion distortion. Fascinating stuff!

Tom, now don't try to see things with your binoculars. Just pick them up and use them.

Both models you mention are very good, Leica's have some distortion, and no
globe effect.
If your dealer just exchanged your Trinovid for the Ultravid, I think you placed a great bargain.

Keep posting, and welcome to Birdforum.

Jerry

BirdingTom · Jul 16, 2020

NDhunter said:
Tom, now don't try to see things with your binoculars. Just pick them up and use them.

Both models you mention are very good, Leica's have some distortion, and no
globe effect.
If your dealer just exchanged your Trinovid for the Ultravid, I think you placed a great bargain.

Keep posting, and welcome to Birdforum.

Jerry

Sound advice Jerry:t: I think many of us (myself included) have the tendency to over analyse items, especially when we pay a lot for them. Often only leading to disappointment. Best to just use things and enjoy them.:eat:

P.S. I'm afraid I had to pay the difference between the models. If only I could be lucky enough not to. All up I paid just under $2k USD for the Ultravid HD Plus. Which didn't seem too unreasonable.

BirdingTom · Jul 16, 2020

tenex said:
Welcome to the thing. There are few straight lines in nature apart from the horizon, but many people have strong opinions about panning behavior. Try a bino with a lot of pincusion (e.g. Leica) alongside another with little (e.g. Swaro) and see how you get on. My own preference is for mild pincushion as in my SLC 56 (and the Trinovid BR, as the exception among Leicas) but they all work for me.

Very interesting you mentioned that Tenex. I found unnoticable pincushion on the Trinovid's, exactly as you observed. I quite liked it that way. Much of the muchness though. It's a compromise in either direction from what I've read up on the Globe effect. I think in the interest of sanity (and not owning 10 sets of binos) I'll take NDhunter's advice and not look too much into it.

tenex · Jul 16, 2020

BT, I was actually talking about the Trinovid BR model (2012-15) preceding the HD you tried, whose reduced pincushioning I thought was an experiment they abandoned. But if the HD models (which I haven't used) are like that too, maybe they went with it after all, and the problem with the BR was just its price point. In any case, you've seen the difference I mentioned then, the UVHD+ is a great one to end up with (the 10x32 is my daily bino), and I hope it gives you many years of enjoyment.

Kevin Conville · Jul 16, 2020

BirdingTom said:
Sound advice Jerry:t: I think many of us (myself included) have the tendency to over analyse items, especially when we pay a lot for them. Often only leading to disappointment. Best to just use things and enjoy them.:eat:

Wiser than you may even realize. Keep that in mind when you read the binoculars forum here.

Added: Those Ultravid HD+ are absolutely world class bins in every respect and a good choice IMO.

BirdingTom · Jul 18, 2020

Thanks guys, appreciate the purchase reassurance:t: Just picked up two books on birds in Australia 🇦🇺 and downloaded eBird. Ready for my next extreme sport - birding!

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