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Common re-branded Kamakura's? (1 Viewer)

Kamakura will build the binocular you have designed at the price contracted.

Bob

Exactly right Bob.

One point that is worth remembering is that the alpha brands make tiny quantities of binos containing precision-machined focus/dioptre components and there are only a limited number of companies willing to reprogramme their computer controlled lathes and then run them for a small length of time just to make what the alphas need.

Kamakura on the other hand must be manufacturing huge quantities by comparison with the alphas so if you can use a focus-set that they already have in production you can piggy-back on their quantities and get these components at a lower cost.

Lee
 
Exactly right Bob.

One point that is worth remembering is that the alpha brands make tiny quantities of binos containing precision-machined focus/dioptre components and there are only a limited number of companies willing to reprogramme their computer controlled lathes and then run them for a small length of time just to make what the alphas need.

Kamakura on the other hand must be manufacturing huge quantities by comparison with the alphas so if you can use a focus-set that they already have in production you can piggy-back on their quantities and get these components at a lower cost.

Lee

One would think that in these days of CAD and all manner of do it yourself CAM, the costs of setting up and storing another set of machining parameters would be minimal. The whole idea of fully computer controlled manufacturing is that small quantities can be made exactly and economically.
It is likely that the marketing preparation is a larger expense than the manufacturing setup, because it is so much more people intensive.
 
One would think that in these days of CAD and all manner of do it yourself CAM, the costs of setting up and storing another set of machining parameters would be minimal. The whole idea of fully computer controlled manufacturing is that small quantities can be made exactly and economically.
It is likely that the marketing preparation is a larger expense than the manufacturing setup, because it is so much more people intensive.

You would think so but industry insiders inform me that in the short time needed to reprogramme a lathe these companies can produce gazillions of components so many are reluctant to give this up just to reprogramme so they can make what is to them a tiny quantity not worth considering. The cost of the reprogramming is the high volume production lost as a result.

Lee
 
You would think so but industry insiders inform me that in the short time needed to reprogramme a lathe these companies can produce gazillions of components so many are reluctant to give this up just to reprogramme so they can make what is to them a tiny quantity not worth considering. The cost of the reprogramming is the high volume production lost as a result.

Lee

Thank you! Very interesting input from the real world of industry.
 
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