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Old Wednesday 29th May 2019, 20:34   #51
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Sussex Men & Small White info please?

Evening all. Pleased to say the four (two flowering) Man Orchids are out in Sussex, this being the only site within the county.

Also would anyone happen to know whether the known site for the Cumbrian Small White Orchids are still about, or have they been lost from this site. Talking of this site, would anyone kindly be able to assist in directions if Orchids are still present. Im off there this weekend (yes I know its probably a tad early) for Coralroot and Lesser Twayblades, and as I live in Sussex it would be great to make the most of it.

Any info very much appreciated.

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Old Friday 31st May 2019, 11:55   #52
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Matt. I can let you have details of the small white site. I see I was there on 3 June 2014 when 4 plants were in full flower. I also have sites for a few other species flowering around that time. Please message me. I don't know if they have come up this year.
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Old Saturday 1st June 2019, 19:00   #53
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Alyn Waters and Llay

We returned to the industrial estate at Llay this afternoon to check on how the amazing stand of Bee orchids were doing. The first thing we noticed was, at the first area that we had seen them, the grass had been mown and all the Bee orchids we had seen in the middle of last week were gone. On this site there had been 15 or so; this was very disappointing as they would not have had time to set seed. However, we went on to the area where the main stand were, and thankfully there had been more careful management here, and although the grass had been cut, it had been carefully manicured around the orchids - leaving them standing on mini islands of mown grass.

We also popped over to Alyn Waters (Llay side) to check out what was happening there - not a lot! We saw two Bee orchids - one just in flower and the other ready to flower. There were many small Common Twayblades and a few Common Spotted Orchid rosettes with a couple of plants having their flower spikes just coming up. We did not have time to venture into the wooded area, but hopefully will be able to do so in the next couple of weeks.
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Old Sunday 2nd June 2019, 11:04   #54
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Around Cromford (Hopton)

Saturday 1st June.
White Herb Robert,
Herb Robert leaf with varying leaf lobes,
Lily of the valley,
Forester moth,
Early purple Orchid.
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Old Sunday 2nd June 2019, 11:11   #55
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Around Cromford (Hopton and the Leys)

Same day. Question is the yellow Hawthorn (there are two) due to the Lead workings and will the Bee Orchid open soon.

Common Twayblade,
Some sort of Cress?,(Hairy Rock Cress maybe?)
Common Spotted Orchid,
One of two extremely yellow Hawthorns,
Bee Orchid maybe Pale form?
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Old Sunday 2nd June 2019, 11:14   #56
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Around Cromford (the Leys)

I think this is a Frog Orchid and two colour versions of Mountain Pansy.
Correction Common Twayblade.
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Old Sunday 2nd June 2019, 12:34   #57
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Fot those of us less au fait with plants, it would be nice to tell us what these are, with the exception of what I think is Lilly of the Valley, I have no idea what ant of the others are.
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Old Sunday 2nd June 2019, 14:16   #58
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Sorry Andy I forgot to name them.
What I think I am posting and what I actually post can be quiet different
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Old Sunday 2nd June 2019, 15:35   #59
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I think this is a Frog Orchid and two colour versions of Mountain Pansy.
That's a Common Twayblade John
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Old Sunday 2nd June 2019, 17:05   #60
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Thank you. I knew if I stuck names on some would be wrong
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Old Sunday 2nd June 2019, 19:11   #61
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I believe these are my closest Man Orchids! an hour's drive, on the edge of Guildford, at Pewley Down.
Nice, small reserve, despite it's popularity with locals.
Also a Small Blue butterfly (not photo'd).
Hi Peter, I guess in depends on what part of Hants you are in. Have you seen Man Orchids at Beacon Hill ?
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Old Sunday 2nd June 2019, 19:51   #62
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Hi Peter, I guess in depends on what part of Hants you are in. Have you seen Man Orchids at Beacon Hill ?
No, I've learnt to discount places where they are shrouded in secrecy, or so vague, that you could walk for days or risk trampling them etc. I think Those plants are usually referred to as Meon Valley lol

I'm finding twitter is the best place for accurate, up to date info. If there is no sign there.. don't take the risk. Seems to work pretty much 100%
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Old Sunday 2nd June 2019, 23:30   #63
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I'm finding twitter is the best place for accurate, up to date info. If there is no sign there.. don't take the risk. Seems to work pretty much 100%
Spread your bets. I am on forums, Twitter, various Facebook groups and yahoo. Sometimes it gets a bit all too much, but can you have too much of a good thing?
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Old Wednesday 5th June 2019, 21:30   #64
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Narrow-leaved Marsh Orchids

A trip to Cors Bodeilio on Monday. Quite a lot of variation in the Narrow-leaved Marsh Orchids there, including one that is considerably paler than any I have seen before. The dead opposite of the var lapponicas of Scotland. I prefer to use the descriptive name for this species rather than Pugsley's Marsh Orchid. None of our other native species are named after a person.
Didn't see any Fly Orchids though I have been told they are just about in flower now. My trip was regretably cut short as a result of losing out to the irresistable forces of gravity and sticky mud!
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Old Saturday 8th June 2019, 15:31   #65
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Marford Quarry

Had a short visit to Marford Quarry in between the rain. A few Bee Orchids were out, and the start of the Pyramidals too. But for me the best was the three clumps of robust Dune Helleborine that promise much in a month or so.
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Minera Quarry

Just been up to Minera and to be honest, quite a disappointment. I was hoping to see the Marsh Orchids, but only saw 1 and that had been tampled. Other years there have been over 100. No Twayblades where I would expect them, very few Pyramidal, and the Fragrants seem to have disappeared. The best it seemed was a scattering of rather anorexic Common Spotteds. Is the weather extremes of a couple of years the cause, perhaps doing things to the soil mycorhiza? Hasn't happened at other local sites. Has the grazing pattern changed? That would not affect all those mentioned. Or is it just part of a natural cycle, and they will all bounce back better than ever?
The day was saved though, by finding a few Bee Orchids, which I have never seem there before, and some Frog Orchids in the most out of the way spot. I like this one with it twisted red pedicles.
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Just been up to Minera and to be honest, quite a disappointment. I was hoping to see the Marsh Orchids, but only saw 1 and that had been tampled. Other years there have been over 100. No Twayblades where I would expect them, very few Pyramidal, and the Fragrants seem to have disappeared. The best it seemed was a scattering of rather anorexic Common Spotteds. Is the weather extremes of a couple of years the cause, perhaps doing things to the soil mycorhiza? Hasn't happened at other local sites. Has the grazing pattern changed? That would not affect all those mentioned. Or is it just part of a natural cycle, and they will all bounce back better than ever?
The day was saved though, by finding a few Bee Orchids, which I have never seem there before, and some Frog Orchids in the most out of the way spot. I like this one with it twisted red pedicles.

Yes to confirm what Muba has posted, Minera Quarry used to be full of Pyramidals, Common Spotted's and Fragrants as well as the Common Twayblades. The Frogs were always difficult to locate in their 'out of the way' location. The first photo is one Elaine took in 2007 - a very different scene to today. The second photo was taken in 2012, when Fragrants were more in evidence. Of course the site is now open to all and sundry, including dogs, cyclists, picnickers etc, so maybe the orchids are in decline, which would be a great pity, as this site has just become a Nature Reserve! However, like Muba, we do not recall having ever seen Bees on this site.

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Birds nest orchid with flies

Took this photo a couple of days ago not far from Cromford in the Southern Peak District. My question is 'what are the flies doing' are they just using it as a convenient staging post or are they involved in pollination in some way?
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I've caught the orchid bug! I was shown Common Spotted, Bee, Lesser Butterfly and Marsh orchid recently in N Norfolk and now I want to see more! I suppose I better catch up with some more common ones next (I understand Butterfly Orchid is rare) so can anyone recommend some good sites for a wide range of orchids in North Norfolk or the Broads?

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Brymbo Pool

After a tip off from our daughter, we found a new (for us) orchid site this afternoon. Brymbo Pool is close to where we live and until now we hadn't realised that orchids grew there! It is alive with Common Spotted Orchids (some with spotted leaves and some without), and we found a patch containing just about half a dozen Bee Orchid plants, in various stages of development from not quite out to going over.

It was a pleasure to walk around this new patch. Access is easy, through a gate, and the pool itself (more of a lake) is lovely.

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I've caught the orchid bug! I was shown Common Spotted, Bee, Lesser Butterfly and Marsh orchid recently in N Norfolk and now I want to see more! I suppose I better catch up with some more common ones next (I understand Butterfly Orchid is rare) so can anyone recommend some good sites for a wide range of orchids in North Norfolk or the Broads?

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The pdf here might help

http://norfolknaturalists.org.uk/wp/...of_Norfolk.pdf

Otherwise, search the internet, you might find some sites. Beware though, some sites are huge, and the plants all crammed in one small area!
If you see photos of plants at a location.. save any pics with the horizon /treeline in the background, as they can be surprisingly helpful!
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