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Where is description of Numenius americanus? (1 Viewer)

ElChivizcoyo

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Where is the description of Numenius americanus?

Hello! first of all, apologies for my bad english

I was looking for the original description of Numenius americanus (Long-billed Curlew) and I found what I think are some problems with the original description of this bird.

Initially I found that N. americanus was described in 1812 by Bechstein, and the type locality was New York, these data appeared both in the HBW species account and in Avibase species account

https://www.hbw.com/species/long-billed-curlew-numenius-americanus
https://avibase.bsc-eoc.org/species.jsp?lang=ES&avibaseid=5284C27B1DE872F2&sec=summary

Also, neither in Avibase or HBW is stablished that N. americanus could have a protonym, but when I looked for the original description in "Johann Lathams allgemeine Uebersicht der Vögel" page 432. there is nothing about a bird named Numenius americanus, even when in that page are other Numenius descriptions.
I cannot read german and I tried several times translating, but I am pretty sure that Numenius americanus is not described there (at least as a member of the genus Numenius)

https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/235032#page/214/mode/1up


So I tried to track posterior mentions about the species and I found this 1824 document where the name Numenius americanus is associated as synonym for two birds what I think are Wood Stork and an Ibis (pages 141 and 150) also the author is the same (Latham)

https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/104532#page/178/mode/1up

Then, in 1918 (more than 100 years from the original description!!) Oberholser wrote this article called "Notes on the Subspecies of Numenius americanus Bechstein" where is established the type locality and the reference for the original description, that is exactly the same book and the same page that I found at first in Avibase and HBW!! :D

https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/15934815#page/252/mode/1up

So, for me, there are two important questions

Where and when was published the original description of this bird?

and, if it exist with a protonym instead of the actual name

Which was this protonym?

I would appreciate if someone of you help me to clarify this mistery

Thank you in advance!!
 
It's listed in the foot-note, as "N. americanus" (below No.1 "Gemeiner oder großer Brachvogel, Numenius Arquata, ..."), in Latham's work of 1812 (Bd4, t.2), i.e.: here.

It's the same page as in your third link ;)

Hopefully of some help?

Björn
 
It's listed in the foot-note, as "N. americanus" (below No.1 "Gemeiner oder großer Brachvogel, Numenius Arquata, ..."), in Latham's work of 1812 (Bd4, t.2), i.e.: here.

It's the same page as in your third link ;)

Hopefully of some help?

Björn

Thank you!! so there is the first description of Long-billed Curlew in just a few lines, that old type of letter confused me
 
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