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tittletattler · Nov 10, 2012

lou salomon said:
yeah but the first one's a clear cut herring gull also: look at the GCs, window and tail pattern...
another one from yesterday labelled kittiwake...http://waarneming.nl/fotonew/3/4096673.jpg
among the real cracks in holland there are tons of not so experienced people. usually in such large databases somebody looks for the right IDs?

What generation are the tertials on the first bird?

Cheers, Andy.

tittletattler · Nov 10, 2012

Hi all,

This hybrid was present in Dartford, Kent, this morning.

Cheers,

Andy.

lou salomon · Nov 10, 2012

tittletattler said:
What generation are the tertials on the first bird?

Cheers, Andy.

1st generation. some HGs do have this wide pale inserts.

lou salomon · Nov 10, 2012

tittletattler said:
Hi all,

This hybrid was present in Dartford, Kent, this morning.

Cheers,

Andy.

is that HG x LBBG? i suppose so.

tittletattler · Nov 10, 2012

lou salomon said:
1st generation. some HGs do have this wide pale inserts.

OK Lou. Just toying with the idea of it being a retarded 2cy.

Hybrid - yeah! Would have helped if I'd said what the parents were. Sorry. :-O

Note the bright yellow legs.

Another observer had a different hybrid an hour later.

Cheers,

Andy.

Cristian Mihai · Nov 10, 2012

Kittiwakes in Bucharest!
http://www.talk.gull-research.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=803

davidearlgray · Nov 10, 2012

tittletattler said:
OK Lou. Just toying with the idea of it being a retarded 2cy.

Hybrid - yeah! Would have helped if I'd said what the parents were. Sorry. :-O

Note the bright yellow legs.

Another observer had a different hybrid an hour later.

Cheers,

Andy.

Still a Herring Gull type for me, you sure the legs are Yellow?!

Cheers,
Dave.

lou salomon · Nov 10, 2012

come on andy - if you know what his parents are :-C

tittletattler · Nov 11, 2012

lou salomon said:
come on andy - if you know what his parents are :-C

His parents are very naughty and should have stuck to the same species rather than try a different species

Well done with the Kittiwake Cristian, great pics too.

Cheers,

Andy.

lou salomon · Nov 11, 2012

if they are that naughty, what's wrong with my suggestion graellsii x argie then, andy?

tittletattler · Nov 11, 2012

lou salomon said:
if they are that naughty, what's wrong with my suggestion graellsii x argie then, andy?

Nothing mate! Didn't make myself clear (again). That's exactly what I think the parents were. I just forgot to say that in my original post.

Cheers, Andy.

Cristian Mihai · Nov 11, 2012

tittletattler said:
His parents are very naughty and should have stuck to the same species rather than try a different species

Well done with the Kittiwake Cristian, great pics too.

Cheers,

Andy.

Thank you, Andy.
It seems that we have an influx of young Kittiwakes all over the Central and Eastern Europe, with an unusual large number of records in Italy, Poland, Hungary and Romania. I would like to know the explanation for the fact that all the records are about 1cy birds...

pbst39 · Nov 15, 2012

Hi chaps,

Not so hot on Gulls and would appreciate comments on the attached bird. Taken in October in Norfolk.

Many thanks,

Pete

buzzard12 · Nov 15, 2012

pbst39 said:
Hi chaps,

Not so hot on Gulls and would appreciate comments on the attached bird. Taken in October in Norfolk.

Many thanks,

Pete

Looks like a nice Caspian 1st Calender

Tertials spot on, nice greater covert pattern, whitish head and bill structure, clean cut for me...

lou salomon · Nov 16, 2012

i also see a female type 1st winter caspian gull here.

Archie Opteryx · Nov 16, 2012

Thought that this was funny looking - is it just a a heavily abraded Herring Gull? (Norfolk, UK).

Funny looking

Cheers,
Archie

tittletattler · Nov 18, 2012

Archie Opteryx said:
Thought that this was funny looking - is it just a a heavily abraded Herring Gull? (Norfolk, UK).

Funny looking

Cheers,
Archie

Hi Archie - I can't see your gull pic mate.

Pete - I agree with Lou. Nice find. Note the long, thin bill and the dark diamonds atop the thin, black shafts on the scapulars (without the anchor bases - compare to my 1st winter yellow legged below). Size = female.

Cheers,

Andy.

tittletattler · Nov 18, 2012

A selection of Yellow-legged Gulls from around Dartford yesterday.

Note the rather heavy streaking on the heads of one of the adults and the 3rd (or 4th?) winter. 1st winter is a corker.

http://www.kentos.org.uk/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=5518

http://www.kentos.org.uk/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=5521

http://www.kentos.org.uk/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=5512

http://www.kentos.org.uk/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=5515

Cheers,

Andy.

Archie Opteryx · Nov 19, 2012

tittletattler said:
... I can't see your gull pic mate.

Balls. Try this link!

pbst39 · Nov 19, 2012

Thanks all for the replies. I had this down as a Caspian but wanted to be 100% sure given that my field experience of the species is restricted to this bird.

Cracking thread, keep it up.

Pete

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