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Old Wednesday 11th July 2018, 17:11   #1
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Little Owl

I took this photo in Romania.
Please can anyone advise as to subspecies; also if a different one than the UK subspecies in which ways would it differ please.
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Old Wednesday 11th July 2018, 17:26   #2
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Isn't that a Pygmy Owl?
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Old Wednesday 11th July 2018, 17:31   #3
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While I believe Stuart is right, here is a page with more info on Little Owl: https://www.birdforum.net/opus/Little_Owl

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Old Wednesday 11th July 2018, 17:53   #4
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Thank you for your replies :
I have attached two more photos of the same bird: also a baby bird very close by which I assume to be the offspring of the bird in question.
Further comments would be gratefully received because (1) I wasn't aware of the pygmy owl being present in Romania (2) the distribution map I saw online for Pygmy Owl did not show Romania as being in its range.
I am a learner though and defer to others knowledge and experience
Thank you
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I will change my input to also say Little.

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Thank you all. It was seen in the village not in the forest.
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Old Wednesday 11th July 2018, 21:24   #9
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Thank you for your replies :
I have attached two more photos of the same bird: also a baby bird very close by which I assume to be the offspring of the bird in question.
Further comments would be gratefully received because (1) I wasn't aware of the pygmy owl being present in Romania (2) the distribution map I saw online for Pygmy Owl did not show Romania as being in its range.
I am a learner though and defer to others knowledge and experience
Thank you
pygmy owl breeds along the carpathian belt but this clearly is a little owl.
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Dear Lou
Thank you too for your input.
Please do you know if this bird would be a different subspecies to the ones seen in the UK?
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Please do you know if this bird would be a different subspecies to the ones seen in the UK?

Yes:

Britain (where introduced, from France) - Athene noctua vidalii

Romania - Athene noctua indigena

http://www.worldbirdnames.org/bow/owls/ scroll 4/5ths of the way down to see a full list of Little Owl subspecies (there's 13 of them!)
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Thank you - I wonder which differences in appearance if any could be observed between the subspecies ?
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Did you ever look at the page in the opus I linked to in post #3?

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Old Friday 13th July 2018, 07:31   #14
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Dear Niels
I am sorry I only very briefly looked. Now I am going to have a proper look. I will get back to you.
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