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Old Friday 10th August 2018, 21:50   #1
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Marsh Tern ID, Turkey

Hey all,
Photographed this juvenile marsh tern in Ankara today. I'm thinking Whiskered but the long bill, dark upperwings and the fuller black cap are throwing me off. I've considered Black but the shoulder patch seems too weak and there is quite a bit of "saddle" on it. Looked slightly more uniform with the bins but there was still a bit contrast.

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Old Saturday 11th August 2018, 03:39   #2
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Surely White-winged with that dark saddle.
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Old Saturday 11th August 2018, 07:29   #3
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Amount and shape of black on head is wrong for that, and so are grey rump and tail sides.
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Old Saturday 11th August 2018, 11:49   #4
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Juvenile Black Tern for me. With a long bill - possibly overgrown.
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Its nice also to see a Great Crested Grebe in kuzeycem's photo but please can anyone identify the other two birds on the photo (see attached)
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Old Saturday 11th August 2018, 14:26   #6
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Its nice also to see a Great Crested Grebe in kuzeycem's photo but please can anyone identify the other two birds on the photo (see attached)
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Old Saturday 11th August 2018, 16:33   #7
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Thank you thats most helpful
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Old Monday 13th August 2018, 20:24   #8
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Thanks all and sorry for the late reply. I think it'll go down as a Black with an unusal saddle to my books. The bill in 1st photo looks overgrown but I think it's actually due to a dark part of the wave coinciding with the bill tip making it look longer.
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Old Tuesday 14th August 2018, 16:48   #9
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Hi,
the bird is, in fact, a juvenile Whiskered Tern.
The lack of a dark leading edge on upperwing separates it from Black Tern, as does the smaller and less distinct breast patch.
Note also the dark tips to all tail feathers, as well as the more coarsely patterned scapulars.
This also explains the rather long, heavy bill.

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Right. I totally overlooked the scaly rear scaps.
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