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Pied Wheatear in Cheshire - Breaking news from RBA (5.31pm 6 Nov)

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Old Tuesday 6th November 2018, 17:40   #1
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RBA Icon Pied Wheatear in Cheshire - Breaking news from RBA (5.31pm 6 Nov)

Breaking news from Rare Bird Alert: Pied Wheatear in Cheshire and Wirral.

BBRC and IRBC stats from RBA's Previous Records Online:

There are 80 accepted records of Pied Wheatear in Britain and 3 in Ireland.
There have been no published records for Cheshire yet

RBA's Previous Records (new) has all the records and a wealth of stats and analysis for this and other rarities recorded in Britain and Ireland


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Old Tuesday 6th November 2018, 17:55   #2
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WOW! C&W first. On sea wall by Dove Point, Meols.. Present for 2nd day.

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Old Tuesday 6th November 2018, 19:08   #3
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A wet morning forecast tomorrow unfortunately. Don't think that will stop lots of birders coming for a look though ! Sunrise at 7.22am
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A first-winter male - see my comments on this thread

https://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=369347

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Old Wednesday 7th November 2018, 07:20   #5
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Old Wednesday 7th November 2018, 09:56   #6
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showing really well along sea wall down to a few feet at times
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They are not shy.........I recall seeing breeding plumage males in Bulgaria down to a few metres.
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Old Wednesday 7th November 2018, 10:59   #8
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Yes is a 1st w Male - and stupidly tame. Wind is about to switch and so might its behaviour. Its currently feeding on insects that are sheltering out of the easterly wind on the seaward side of the sea wall - from a little East of Dovepoint Rd to a little west of the dovepoint car park


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Old Wednesday 7th November 2018, 13:54   #9
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Nice...a bit gripped..a great NW bird and a UK bogey bird during my birding days in Blighty. Great find!
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Might it winter, Desert has done in the past?
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I think it needs to find better habitat than concrete to survive
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A first-winter male - see my comments on this thread

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So does the same apply to this one, which the BBRC didn't age.

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Hi Brian,

So does the same apply to this one, which the BBRC didn't age.

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Yes. Note pale edges to secondaries extends to g cove (no black 'shadow') and the fringing on black 'throat and face' is extensive and notably obscures the black on the lores. There are other things too, but these are clear indicators.

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Yes. Note pale edges to secondaries extends to g cove (no black 'shadow') and the fringing on black 'throat and face' is extensive and notably obscures the black on the lores. There are other things too, but these are clear indicators.

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Still there this morning, though not looking well and someone has put mealworms down :(


It's not as though it's unapproachable - these photos are taken from behind the parked cars with a bridge camera.


re ageing - you can also see a clear moult boundary in the greater coverts
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Can someone point out the id features that would separate this from a 1W Male Eastern Black-Eared Wheatear?
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I was wondering just that, though I’m sure there are differences.

Does mealworm benefit vagrants? Genuine question, it must do presumably.
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The black throat connects with the scaps, and the understory of the mantle is black

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Oh dear, the mealworm brigade has arrived - had the local pet shop run out of Locusts?

Why do idiots feel the need to devalue these records by artificial feeding?

Please don’t bang on about bird tables and feeders it’s not the same thing��

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The black throat connects with the scaps, and the understory of the mantle is black

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Many thanks Jane, Ill have a good read tonight. Always learning, Im trying to move on from Blyths Reed Warblers (:-
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Oh dear, the mealworm brigade has arrived - had the local pet shop run out of Locusts?

Why do idiots feel the need to devalue these records by artificial feeding?

Please dont bang on about bird tables and feeders its not the same thing��

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Absolutely agree Laurie no need for extra food for this bird. In the two hours I was there yesterday it was continually taking insects off the sea wall. The abundant natural food supply is presumably the reason why it has stayed.
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Does mealworm benefit vagrants? Genuine question, it must do presumably.
Wasn't there some thought that the Scilly Ovenbird and CCCourser both suffered from people feeding them mealworms, a food source that wasn't part of their usual diet (containing toxins they were not used too)?
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Wasn't there some thought that the Scilly Ovenbird and CCCourser both suffered from people feeding them mealworms, a food source that wasn't part of their usual diet (containing toxins they were not used too)?
Yes, though it could probably be argued that the main reason they were eating mealworms was that they were already terminal cases. In the grand scheme of things this bird is lost to the gene pool already
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