chartwell99 said:
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This Forum has actually done wonders for recognizing the appeal of Swift bins, as until the Forum discussion appeared, I'm afraid the brand was simply not very popular other than with a very small group of birders and optical nuts. Bottom line: I suspect that not many Swifts were sold, either new or used, and most changed hands very infrequently.
Ouch! Selling a mint Kestrel based on a false premise is a bummer. However, the 802 Neptune 7x35, 420 ft., was a great buy at $65.
As one who has purchased five older Swift binoculars on eBay during the past year, and passed up many times more, I'd have to push back somewhat from the original assertion. Older Swifts not only
are available in serviceable condition, but in much greater variety than most other brands, such as Nikon, Leica and Zeiss. That fact made a big difference to me in writing the history of the 804 Audubon because I really needed to have a representative of each model type in hand to retain contact with reality. One simply can't appreciate how massive a Type 1 or 2 binocular is, or how much handier the Type 4 body design (e.g., 804R, 804 HR/5) became, without good quality specimens.
To date, about 115 different Swift models have been identified by a European collector, and I know his list is not complete. The models I like the most were made by Hiyoshi Kogaku, Ltd. (JL B-56), and seem to incorporate outstanding optical and construction quality in every instance. Mostly, these were advertised as Mk II Swift binoculars, although Hiyoshi also made several Mk I types that were hardly of lesser quality. My impression is that these were marketed as Mk I to justify economy pricing by Swift. They were really bargains in their own lifetime.
So, even without historical sales figures, I'm fairly certain that a huge number of Swifts were sold in the US and Europe between 1960 and 2000. Many of these models worked as well as Audubons, and some maybe even better. Like the 8.5x44 Audubon configuration, the 10x50 configurations also had their origin as Type 1 heavy body "Feather Weight", and went through a parallel evolution to the final Type 4 Audubon/Kestrel. Some of this is confused by different American and European versions. Also, a rose by any other name ... doesn't sell as well.
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Be patient, folks. eBay may be in a temporary lull for older Swift porros, but I am optimistic. Arguably, they are the most available and collectible binoculars out there ... and all useable.
ED