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Old Thursday 5th September 2013, 14:01   #1
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2 birds, South Africa

is the sunbird a southern double collared? the plumage is so purple/blue that i have doubts (photo taken in west coast national park)

for the other one i know it's impossible to identificate, but i was wandering if it's a species of cisticola (maybe a cloud cisticola) and not a kind of wren.
very short tail and the small dark/black bill made me think about it.
i post also the original photo so you can see where i found it: near GRASKOP, roadside with bushes, shrubs and small trees

both photos were taken in september 2012

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sorry, here's the photos, i've deleted them before
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Old Thursday 5th September 2013, 15:11   #3
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I think it's probably a Southern Double-collared, but it's hard to tell from this angle. I think your other bird might be a Karoo Prinia.
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I think it's probably a Southern Double-collared, but it's hard to tell from this angle. I think your other bird might be a Karoo Prinia.
thank you, i know it's difficult, and i believe is the only one sunbird in that area like that

i've got many photos of karoo prinia, and one in that position that i attach below... karoo prinia has a very long tail, this one does not... in plus, i know it's a bad pic, but i can't see the heavy streaked underparts...
now that i've searched for the umpteenth time in the guide, could it be a Tawny flanked prinia?
i've found some photos

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Tawny-flanked not on west coast.
As Will says, it's a Karoo, prob a young bird which would explain unders and the tail that looks like its growing in
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Tawny-flanked not on west coast.
As Will says, it's a Karoo, prob a young bird which would explain unders and the tail that looks like its growing in
thank you, but only the sunbird was at wast cost, this prinia was near graskop, east part of the country
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thank you, but only the sunbird was at wast cost, this prinia was near graskop, east part of the country
Ah soz, didn't read that bit!
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Ah soz, didn't read that bit!
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I would say your best bet on the little LBJ is a Twany flanked prinia, usually always in groups of 2 -4 individuals.

The Sunbird is hard to say from that angle. WCNP could be SDCS... but very tough call.
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I would say your best bet on the little LBJ is a Twany flanked prinia, usually always in groups of 2 -4 individuals.

The Sunbird is hard to say from that angle. WCNP could be SDCS... but very tough call.
thank you very much, considering both photos and memories I agree with you
and correct me if i'm wrong, but basing on SASOL's maps, the only sunbird in WCNP with green/blue back and white belly is SDCS

thank you everyone for helping me with difficult calls!
i'll post the last one tomorrow!

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Ahh, I also assumed the Prinia and Sunbird were from the same area. Tawny-flanked it is then!
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yeah sorry, i didn't mention graskop is at east
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