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Birds from Akumal (Yucatan, Mexico) June 15th

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Old Wednesday 20th June 2007, 08:43   #1
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Birds from Akumal (Yucatan, Mexico) June 15th

We have just returned from Akumal (1.5 hours south of Cancun) and saw all these birds within a half mile of the coastline. Any suggestions on their I.D please?
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Old Wednesday 20th June 2007, 08:49   #2
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Also these too.............
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Old Wednesday 20th June 2007, 08:53   #3
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And these 2 pictures of the same bird which were taken 5 miles inland near to a cenote, locals called it a Mot mot?
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Old Wednesday 20th June 2007, 11:26   #4
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Here are my guesses without reference to books

1) White-winged Dove and Northern Mockingbird
2) and 3) Oriole sp...possibly Altamira
4) juvvy Brown Pelican
5) Kingbird sp.. Tropical?
6) Bronzed Cowbird
7) Green-backed Heron
8) Great Kiskadee
9) Tropical Kingbird
10) Myarchus flycatcher sp.
11) Motmot sp.

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Old Wednesday 20th June 2007, 11:28   #5
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The motmot is Blue-crowned.
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Old Wednesday 20th June 2007, 11:30   #6
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1- White winged Dove and Tropical Mockingbird
2- Hooded Oriole male
3- Hooded Oriole female
4- Brown Pelican
5- Tropical or Couch´s Kingbird, can´t say which
6-Bronzed Cowbird
7- Green Heron
8- Great Kiskadee
9- Tropical or Couch´s Kingbird (may be Tropical on bill size)
10- Maybe a Yellow-bellied Elaenia but not sure. Yellow-olive Flycatcher is another poss.
11- Turquoise-browed Motmot

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Old Wednesday 20th June 2007, 11:50   #7
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what do locals call *you* Eduardo?

I think now Eduardo has made the few necessary improvements to Sean's answers we will not be able to improve them any further!

although having said that, could number 10 be a caribbean elaenia?

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Old Wednesday 20th June 2007, 15:50   #8
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[quote=James Lowther;921
could number 10 be a caribbean elaenia?

James[/QUOTE]

I see Akumal is inside the known range for Caribbean Elaenia in Mexico so yes, it could be.
I´ve enhaced the pic a bit to get a better view of the bird. It looks to me more like a Yellow-olive Flycatcher now. Compare with this bird:

http://nhm.ku.edu/komar/imagegallery...e_018hires.jpg

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Old Wednesday 20th June 2007, 16:56   #9
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Hi there,

Thanks for all the help you have given. Its interesting to know the names of all the birds i have seen.

I will give some more information on number 10 which may help - this was actually seen 1 hours drive north of Akumal, near to Puerto Morelos. We went out for the day on an ATV trip. We started in Puerto Morelos and headed up to the highway, then we went 13km up a newly laid tarmac road towards Selvatica (zip-lines), after another 3km we went to a cenote which was called 'The Pumas Mouth' (in english). This bird was in a tree just off the track we were riding along. I took several pictures but the camera wouldn't pick the bird out because of the background colours. I will post the other pictures i have incase they help at all..........
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Old Wednesday 20th June 2007, 17:02   #10
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New images and text reinforce the Yellow-olive Flycatcher theory. The bill looks flattish on first pic.
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Old Wednesday 20th June 2007, 21:49   #11
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9. is tropical kingbird
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Old Wednesday 20th June 2007, 22:30   #12
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I was thinking 5 may be a hammonds fly

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Old Wednesday 20th June 2007, 22:53   #13
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These are my guesses, with reference to guides. Took me ages, but I'm trying to get familiar with your birds.

1 white winged dove and tropical mockingbird (although i dont think northern can be ruled out from that angle

2 Hooded oriole. Not altamira, as lacks orange wing bar

3 Female Hooded

4 juv. brown pelican

5 Hammonds fly, going on posture, faded yellow underparts (not bright, as in kingbirds) and notched tail.

6 bronzed cowbird

7 green heron

8 boat billed flycatcher. I thought wing colour may be better than for kiskadee

9 tropical kingbird (long bill)

10 dont know

11 Turquoise browed motmot. Much more vivid than in any of the field guides. Amazing!

Feel free to put me right : p Here to learn

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Old Thursday 21st June 2007, 00:26   #14
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I agree with Motmots IDs. I cant say for sure what the mystery flycatcher is but I agree with Motmot that it looks more like Yellow-Olive Fly by posture by shape than an Elaenia sp.

Regarding Jason's Ids:
By range at least, N. Mockingbird is very unlikely.

Hammonds Fly is not as bright yellow (as at least my monitor shows), has more of a greyish or dusky wash on the chest and throat. Also, being an Empid., Hammonds has a slightly different shape- not as elongated and powerful as Tyrannus sp.. Tropical and Couch's Kingbirds do show a notched tail as this bird shows.

The Kiskadee type bird looks like a Great Kiskadee to me rather than Boat-billed Fly because it shows rufous in the wings (maybe its not showing up on your monitor?) and although it has a strong bill, it lacks the heavily curved culmen shown by Boat-billed Fly.
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Old Thursday 21st June 2007, 10:30   #15
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I agree with Motmots IDs. I cant say for sure what the mystery flycatcher is but I agree with Motmot that it looks more like Yellow-Olive Fly by posture by shape than an Elaenia sp.

Regarding Jason's Ids:
By range at least, N. Mockingbird is very unlikely.

Hammonds Fly is not as bright yellow (as at least my monitor shows), has more of a greyish or dusky wash on the chest and throat. Also, being an Empid., Hammonds has a slightly different shape- not as elongated and powerful as Tyrannus sp.. Tropical and Couch's Kingbirds do show a notched tail as this bird shows.

The Kiskadee type bird looks like a Great Kiskadee to me rather than Boat-billed Fly because it shows rufous in the wings (maybe its not showing up on your monitor?) and although it has a strong bill, it lacks the heavily curved culmen shown by Boat-billed Fly.

Hi Pat!!
Nice to have you here. Probably you don´t know but we met in Costa Rica a few years ago and birded a bit together. I´m Eduardo, Robert´s friend in Monteverde (now I´m in Spain but hopefully will be back there soon). Glad to see we agree on the ids. Will pm you.
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Hi Eduardo,
I finally received my copy of the Garrigues & Dean a few days ago. Very nice. Please thank Robert when you see him for giving us both a "plug" in the book credits. Very nice of him!
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I thought I did alright without reference to a guide:)..

I checked my US guide afterwards and realized I was wrong on the male Oriole. Wonder if the female had a white wing patch on?

Don't have a reference for that region..hence I wasn't too sure about the Motomot, Mockingbird or Flycatchers.

What family is Olive- Yelloe Flycatcher?

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Old Thursday 21st June 2007, 17:08   #18
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Yellow-olive Flycatcher aka Y-o Flatbill is Tolmomyias sulphurescens, family Tyrannidae
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Hi Eduardo,
I finally received my copy of the Garrigues & Dean a few days ago. Very nice. Please thank Robert when you see him for giving us both a "plug" in the book credits. Very nice of him!
I´ll do it.
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Ah so the same famlily as the Kingbirds..hence the similarity.


Thanks for that Eduardo.

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PS Sorry about the typos on the birds name
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Hi Sean, yes it is the same family (biggest bird family!)

http://www.montereybay.com/creagrus/flycatchers.html

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