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Can't be a MOURNING Dove (1 Viewer)
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cavan wood
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The spots on the wings are typical of mourning, but the big pink cere and the dark tail makes me wonder if its a hybrid with a pigeon of some type. Does anyone know if that happens?
Scott
Scott
Gentoo
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Interesting looking bird. I can only think of a hybrid with Rock Dove (Pigeon). The only other pigeon like bird with any similar coloration was the Passenger Pigeon. Personally I think the odds are better for a hybrid. Mourning Doves have been captive bred to include come color mutations but those are generally lighter or white. Not blue-gray at all.
In all honestly you'll find more info here. Bird stores, well, first of all wouldn't have Mourning Doves, and second of all, don't know jack compared to most birders. I can say that your bird definitely has Mourning Dove in him - maybe even just a pure, but weird one. It's not a young MODO, as they look scaly. Would like to see more discussion on this (experts? dove breeders?).
...you mean like a binoculars store? Or a pet store? (Which is what I thought you meant.) Because if it is a pet store, I don't know how much information they can give you on a bird (Mourning Dove) that is illegal to possess under the migratory bird act.
Larry Lade
Moderator
Perhaps this is a "normal" Mourning Dove but has a growth on the cere. This deformity sometimes happens with birds.
I'm referring to "Wild Bird Center". They sell all sorts of supplies, food and books for wild birds. They do not sell birds, but they do have free advice; usually pretty good advice.
I didn't make it up there today, hopefully tomorrow.
Not a Ground-Dove, for a number of reasons. No scaling, long tail, etc. Ground-Dove is a Kansas review species. I think a growth on the cere is the most plausible.
Young MODOs (as I said above) are scaley-looking. I've seen numerous in the wild.
By the mature plumage on your bird, this physically can't be an immature MODO. That's the beauty of molt.
Rick Wright Tucson
Well-known member
This remains a Mourning Dove, an adult suffering from some deformity, perhaps trichomoniasis (http://www.wbfi.org/trichomoniasis.htm)--though that disease usually shows just in the neck.
watermelonpunch
Well-known member
I'm a novice with this stuff, but I've been seeing loads of mourning doves... and my first reaction to seeing that first photo was that the bird is very sick in some way, and that other than being disfigured by some type of illness, it looks like a mourning dove. But that's just a gut feeling I got from the photo, not based on much knowledge about bird diseases.
When I saw the pic my first impression was an unfinished bird, as if it reached a certain point in its growth and just stopped half way through. Just a theory, but we raised chickens ( I know it's not a dove , but it's still a bird)when I was growing up and occasionally we would get a sickly looking one that just reached a point in it's development and stopped growing, but continued to thrive. It just looked unfinished. They even maintained some of the downy feathers, which this bird seems to have, around their heads, even into adulthood.
Falco peregrinus
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i'll give this link to a dove forum i go on to regrularly
