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Blurry waders, Western Australia

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Old Friday 9th November 2018, 15:25   #1
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Blurry waders, Western Australia

Taken and cropped from full zoom video in February this year at Richmond Lake, Rockingham just south of Perth, these may be 3 different birds or all the same! Bird 1 in pics 1 and 2 seems to have very clear white versus dark plumage and white head; Bird 2 (pic3) seems to have grey on half of head; Bird 3 (pics 4 and 5) seems darker backed with long seemingly straight bill and darker patch on shoulder. Any clues gratefully received. Thank you in advance.
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Old Friday 9th November 2018, 15:40   #2
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not a 1000 per cent sure of some of these: first two have black-winged stilts and silver gulls. 3 is probably the same; 4 and 5 are greenshanks.
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Pics 1 to 3 have pale greenish/grey legs and also don't seem tall enough for stilts. I wondered about Greenshank for pics 4 and 5 despite straightish looking bill. Is Marsh sandpiper possible for any of these 5 pics?
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Pics 1 to 3 have pale greenish/grey legs and also don't seem tall enough for stilts. I wondered about Greenshank for pics 4 and 5 despite straightish looking bill. Is Marsh sandpiper possible for any of these 5 pics?
...have pale greenish/grey legs...

I considered marsh sand but none of these shouted that species to me. 3 could be, I suppose: see e.g.
http://www.ozanimals.com/Bird/Marsh-...agnatilis.html
[esp general plumage pattern of first pic]

I'm sure the last 2 are greenshank. For 1st 2 images, I conversely thought the legs too long for marsh sand and didn't think the plumage pattern correct (looks broadly black and white). I'd suggest leg colour is either due to immaturity or perhaps some photo artefact. But with photos this good...
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the first ones are young stilts, they have pale reddish yellowish legs
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All of them are Common Greenshanks - young stilts would have a smudge over the eye, not a darker nape as in these birds, amongst other things
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All of them are Common Greenshanks - young stilts would have a smudge over the eye, not a darker nape as in these birds, amongst other things
Again, perhaps you're right, but the unless the photos are misleading, the legs look too long for Greenshank to me.
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Awful pics, but the amount of white on rump and tail in the first two pics looks like Pied Stilt to me, and the legs seem very long. The last two pics are Greenshanks, bill too stout for Marsh Sand
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Granted, they are poor photos, but issues for Pied Stilt include being grey-brown not black (ie. the darker parts are too pale), heavier and bi-coloured bill (at least as heavy as the birds in the last two pics which everyone seems to agree are greenshanks). Refer also the OPs comment on leg colour

I'm not sure about these long legs either - greenshank not exactly short-legged. I'm wondering if people are interpreting this pale thing as part of the leg, which I'm pretty sure it's not
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