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Old Thursday 14th June 2018, 18:27   #1
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Birds from Bolivia. ID

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0681 and 0693 Cordilleran Canastero? Altiplano

2102 Puna or Common Miner? Altiplano

6807 Mouse-colored Tyrannulet? Rurrenabaque

7628 Great Rufous Woodcreeper? Yakuma river
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Old Thursday 14th June 2018, 18:31   #2
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9341 and 9346 - same bird Near La Paz

2110 and 0476 - same bird River between Altiplano and Yuni
All of them Rufous-naped Ground-Tyrant?

0450 - female Black-hooded Sierra-Finch ? Near Solar
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Old Thursday 14th June 2018, 18:36   #3
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9237 and 9583 - both Great Thrush? 9237 in La Paz, 9583 not far from Valley de la Luna

9257 Stripe-tailed Yellow-Finch? Rurrenabaque

0052 Peruvian Sierra-Finch? La Paz

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Old Friday 15th June 2018, 11:21   #4
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My birds fly away... Anybody help? )))
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Old Friday 15th June 2018, 11:53   #5
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Can you tell use where all the pictures were taken? For a few of them it will help a lot in having confidence on the ID. Bolivia is pretty general as a location.
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Can you tell use where all the pictures were taken? For a few of them it will help a lot in having confidence on the ID. Bolivia is pretty general as a location.
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Old Saturday 16th June 2018, 13:18   #8
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0362 and 0433 Greenish Yellow-Finch? Altiplano

6802 and 6804 Vermilion Flycatcher female? Rurrenabaque
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First set of birds:

I think the long superciliary line and the extensive black in the tail are enough to say Cordilleran Canastero and not Maquis. If you know exactly where the photo is from it could help.
Looks like a clean breast and some rufous on the outer webs of the tail feathers, pointing at Puna Miner, but given the angle the bird is at and the subtlety of the tail coloration as a field mark, I am not 100%. A photo of the chest would be conclusive.
The flycatcher isn't Mouse-colored, the yellow on the rump is enough to say that. It looks to me most like a Myiopagis type Elaenia. It's hard to see the wing and see if there are wing bars, maybe Forest or Greenish Elaenia. More photos would help.
Great Rufous Woodcreeper indeed.

Second set of photos:
Rufous-naped Ground-Tyrants and Black-hooded Sierra-Finches

Third set of photos:
Great Thrush, Chiguanco Thrush, Saffron Finch (heavy bill, location) , Peruvian Sierra-Finch

Last set of photos:
Both Finches look ok for Greenish over Puna or Bright-rumped. The first one definitely. The second I think as well but it's been a while since I've compared those birds... and yes, Vermilion Flycatcher.
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Regarding 3 and 4 in post 8: they would be good for female VeFl in north and central america. I thought SA females would be redder on underside, but I have not seen them in Bolivia

I cannot comment on most of the others

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Regarding 3 and 4 in post 8: they would be good for female VeFl in north and central america. I thought SA females would be redder on underside, but I have not seen them in Bolivia

I cannot comment on most of the others

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There are a handful of subsp/breeding populations, the birds in Bolivia / N Arg / Paraguay / S Brazil are generally pretty pale bellied like this. I think the brighter / redder females are W of the Andes?
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There are a handful of subsp/breeding populations, the birds in Bolivia / N Arg / Paraguay / S Brazil are generally pretty pale bellied like this. I think the brighter / redder females are W of the Andes?
West of the Andes coincides with my experience with these

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First set of birds:

I think the long superciliary line and the extensive black in the tail are enough to say Cordilleran Canastero and not Maquis. If you know exactly where the photo is from it could help.
It was on one of the "islands" with cactus in Solar...

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First set of birds:

Looks like a clean breast and some rufous on the outer webs of the tail feathers, pointing at Puna Miner, but given the angle the bird is at and the subtlety of the tail coloration as a field mark, I am not 100%. A photo of the chest would be conclusive.
See N 2095 and 2105 below

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First set of birds:

The flycatcher isn't Mouse-colored, the yellow on the rump is enough to say that. It looks to me most like a Myiopagis type Elaenia. It's hard to see the wing and see if there are wing bars, maybe Forest or Greenish Elaenia. More photos would help.
Unfortunatelly have only this photo... But will check Elaenias..

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Second set of photos:
Rufous-naped Ground-Tyrants and Black-hooded Sierra-Finches
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Third set of photos:
Great Thrush, Chiguanco Thrush, Saffron Finch (heavy bill, location) , Peruvian Sierra-Finch
Thank you!

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Last set of photos:
Both Finches look ok for Greenish over Puna or Bright-rumped. The first one definitely. The second I think as well but it's been a while since I've compared those birds...
Thank you very much for the help and I'm waiting more comments!!
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The Miner is certainly Puna Miner - clean breast and the tail is obviously rufous and not creamy.

The Canastero has to be Cordilleran not Maquis based upon location. Just a minor correction - it is Salar de Uyuni, not Solar :)
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The Miner is certainly Puna Miner - clean breast and the tail is obviously rufous and not creamy.

The Canastero has to be Cordilleran not Maquis based upon location. Just a minor correction - it is Salar de Uyuni, not Solar :)
Thank you for the help!! Sure, Salar, sorry.... ))))

And what do you think about Greenish Finches? Both are Greenish?
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