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Old Saturday 18th August 2018, 20:58   #36526
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I was talking to SMW yesterday while he was watching this same bird. He was cautious that it could be a yellow Legged Gull due to the darkness of the mantle and depth of bill. However he things it probably is a Caspian Gull 3rd Summer ..suffice to say that it is a different bird to JHWR's Caspian on 14th August.
I think we are all looking for the perfect example of a Caspo with the 'full set' of salient features but the more you research and the more photo's you look at the more confusing it becomes.
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Thanks for your response and helpful comments John. Yes, I did the usual peering and head-scratching whilst the bird also repeatedly disappeared behind foreground reedmace. There was no red on the upper mandible, by the way, helping to swing thoughts away from Yellow-legged again. It is notable how frequently words like "often", "usually", "may" and "variable" come up in many of the descriptions of 'new' gull species but then I suppose only to be expected when people are trying to find ways of delimiting distinguishing features amongst the clinal flux: good job the birds are beautiful and characterful I keep telling myself. I had sent the images to Brian Stretch to seek his opinion also and he concurs with the Caspian I.D. so has put it out on Worcester Birding.
P.S. Talking of characterful, the gulls had crapped on my car when I got back to it......typical!!
P.P.S. Dunnock beneath concrete hide feeders also on Thursday......noticed it wasn't on the list for August yet
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Old Sunday 19th August 2018, 09:13   #36527
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This morning at the Moors Pool Dave J reports:

3 Green Sandpiper, 2 Common Sandpiper, 5 Snipe, 5 Curlew, Hobby, 2 Yellow-legged Gull (adult & third summer), Little Egret, 5 Gadwall, 6 Shoveler, 5 Common Tern, 2 Swift, Muntjac deer
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Old Sunday 19th August 2018, 09:58   #36528
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Dunlin and Ringed Plover at the Flashes as per Paul Croft
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Old Sunday 19th August 2018, 10:35   #36529
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Dunlin and Ringed Plover at the Flashes as per Paul Croft
Both flew off a 11am as per Dave J; also 11 Curlew and Whitethroat
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Old Sunday 19th August 2018, 12:45   #36530
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Juvenile Goosander at the Moors Pool found by Paul Croft.

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Old Sunday 19th August 2018, 14:59   #36531
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Caspian Gull again at the Moors Pool this afternoon, found by Andy Warr and Chris Thomson.
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Old Sunday 19th August 2018, 17:43   #36532
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Caspian Gull again at the Moors Pool this afternoon, found by Andy Warr and Chris Thomson.
Just to clarify,I picked the Caspian up from the east hide, a subsequent phone call to Andy,who was in the west hide, was also on the gull.
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Old Sunday 19th August 2018, 18:16   #36533
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Just to clarify,I picked the Caspian up from the east hide, a subsequent phone call to Andy,who was in the west hide, was also on the gull.
What's your gut feeling Chris - just one bird responsible for all sightings?
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Old Sunday 19th August 2018, 19:24   #36534
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What's your gut feeling Chris - just one bird responsible for all sightings?
Think there could be two as JWHR's bird appeared to have a paler mantle.Also i think the bill showed some dark marking alongside the red but my memory is not so great these days.Will ask John when i see him.

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Old Monday 20th August 2018, 06:30   #36535
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2 Black-tailed Godwits at the Moors Pool this morning in the lagoon area as per Andy P.

150 Lapwing at the Flashes as per Andy A.
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Blackwits have now flown towards the Flashes.
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Juvenile Med Gull at the Moors Pool as per Andy P.
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Now a Turnstone and 4 Ringed Plover briefly at the Flashes as per Andy A
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Dunlin on the first Flash from the Cuckoo Hide as per Phil W.

With steady drizzle hopefully more birds will drop in.
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Today at the FLASHES

Eleanor the new East Reserves Manager and Andy Harris will be monitoring the phragmites around the second Flash.. this is in preparation for the forthcoming reed treatment to hopefully eradicate it from the shoreline.
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Work party MOORS TUESDAY 21ST August

Tomorrow the Tuesday crew will be working at the North Moors clearing in front of the viewing screens. Also trimming willows between the two West hides to aid viewing. We will also shearing in front of the concrete hide .this area will be BRUSH CUT next week.
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Old Monday 20th August 2018, 19:49   #36542
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Andy P's summary of his sightings today:

MOORS POOL
c50 Lapwing, 3 Green Sandpiper, 2 Common Sandpiper, 2 Black-tailed Godwits, 2 Snipe, Mediterranean Gull juvenile, adult Yellow-legged Gull, 5 Common Tern including 2 juveniles, Wigeon.

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13 Curlew

HEN POOL
Cetti's Warbler, 3 Water Rail (adult & 2 juveniles)

In total 9 species of wader were present today
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Andy P's summary of his sightings today:

MOORS POOL
c50 Lapwing, 3 Green Sandpiper, 2 Common Sandpiper, 2 Black-tailed Godwits, 2 Snipe, Mediterranean Gull juvenile, adult Yellow-legged Gull, 5 Common Tern including 2 juveniles, Wigeon.

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13 Curlew

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Cetti's Warbler, 3 Water Rail (adult & 2 juveniles)

In total 9 species of wader were present today
The other 3 were Turnstone, Dunlin and 4 Ringed Plover at the flashes early morning...
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13 Curlew again at the Flashes this morning as per Andy A
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Birdguides are reporting that the putative third summer Caspian Gull present last Tuesday has been reidentified as a second summer Yellow-legged Gull. Does this bird account for all subsequent sightings or have we had a genuine Caspian Gull in the last few days?
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Birdguides are reporting that the putative third summer Caspian Gull present last Tuesday has been reidentified as a second summer Yellow-legged Gull. Does this bird account for all subsequent sightings or have we had a genuine Caspian Gull in the last few days?
I spoke to JHWR re the bill pattern of his bird he had Tuesday. It did have red and black in the bill,so not the same bird.Would be interesting to have comments on Andy's photos.
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