Please help with these from Riviera Maya, mexico (1 Viewer)

Deb335077

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• Oct 25, 2018

• #1

Please help with some from the riviera maya area of Mexico (near Cancun)

Thanks

 

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Microtus

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• Oct 25, 2018

• #2

#2 is a Summer Tanager.

 

njlarsen

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• Oct 25, 2018

• #3

1 I think is Hooded due to the shape of the mask in the head - might be good to see a second angle if available
2 Agree
3 I think female GT Grackle
4 is golden-fronted woodpecker
5 is gr. Kiskadee

Niels

 

Nutcracker

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• Oct 25, 2018

• #4

njlarsen said:

4 is golden-fronted woodpecker

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Velasquez's Woodpecker Melanerpes santacruzi (split from the Golden-fronted of Texas & NE Mexico, by IOC et al.) :t:

 

Deb335077

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• Oct 25, 2018

• #5

Another shot of the oriole

 

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birdmeister

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• Oct 25, 2018

• #6

Am I missing something, or is #3 not a crow of some sort? Not sure what is expected there.

 

JWN Andrewes

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• Oct 25, 2018

• #7

birdmeister said:

Am I missing something, or is #3 not a crow of some sort? Not sure what is expected there.

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I thought Melodious Blackbird for 3, but I must confess to being far from au fait with the complete range of Grackles in that area. Certainly looks Icterid though, rather than Crow.

And for my own education, what's the best feature that makes the Tanager Summer rather than Hepatic (or is it Red these days round there)?

 

Nutcracker

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• Oct 25, 2018

• #8

birdmeister said:

Am I missing something, or is #3 not a crow of some sort? Not sure what is expected there.

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Checked up; to my surprise, no Corvus native on the Yucatan Peninsula at all. Tamaulipas Crow is the closest, but doesn't get that far south.

 

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birdmeister

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• Oct 26, 2018

• #9

Nutcracker said:

Checked up; to my surprise, no Corvus native on the Yucatan Peninsula at all. Tamaulipas Crow is the closest, but doesn't get that far south.

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Thanks, Nutcracker. Looks like I may have "jumped the gun", then!

 

Jeff Hopkins

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• Oct 26, 2018

• #10

How about Bronzed Cowbird for #3?

 

Microtus

Maryland USA (he/him)

• Oct 26, 2018

• #11

I think that the bill is too long for Bronzed Cowbird, and the tail might be too graduated for that species.

 

njlarsen

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• Oct 26, 2018

• #12

JWN Andrewes said:

I thought Melodious Blackbird for 3, but I must confess to being far from au fait with the complete range of Grackles in that area. Certainly looks Icterid though, rather than Crow.

And for my own education, what's the best feature that makes the Tanager Summer rather than Hepatic (or is it Red these days round there)?

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To my eyes #3 looks brownish rather than black - and Melodious Blackbird is monomorphic, both males and females are black. I also to a higher degree remember these from the northern coast rather than at Riviera Maya.

I am not positive I can exclude Hepatic. I just remember so many more Summer from that area ...

Niels

 

Microtus

Maryland USA (he/him)

• Oct 26, 2018

• #13

The tanager's bill is fairly light, which should rule out Hepatic.

 

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Dave B Smith

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• Oct 26, 2018

• #14

Microtus said:

The tanager's bill is fairly light, which should rule out Hepatic.

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Additionally range would rule this out as it is not found in the Yucatan and it is usually a higher elevation species.

 

ovenbird43

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• Oct 26, 2018

• #15

#3 doesn't look right for female Great-tailed Grackle - I know the bird is in shadow, but female Great-tailed would be much paler brown, with strong facial markings and a pale eye, plus a longer bill. Overall structure fits Melodious well - young birds are more brownish than adults, so perhaps a younger bird.

 

Deb335077

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• Oct 28, 2018

• #16

Deb335077 said:

Another shot of the oriole

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Would this be a hooded with this second image?

 

njlarsen

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• Oct 31, 2018

• #17

I agree on Hooded Oriole for this second image. I also think now that the browner appearance have been explained that the icterid is a Melodious Blackbird.

Niels