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Raptor ID - Central Spain (1 Viewer)
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Cristian Mihai
Cristian Mihai
I'm not an expert, but IMHO looks more like a Common Buzzard...
shorebirder
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Looks like dark phase Booted Eagle to me.
steve west
Well-known member
Dark morph Booted Eagle (apparently "phase" is incorrect terminology!)
Steve
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Steve
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Black Wheatear
Bowed but not broken, yet!
Juvenile Bonelli's Eagle anyone?
Peter
Peter
Thanks.
That was the other option we thought. But, those two pictures and this one where taken in the same minute. No other raptors flying; only two birds flying together and "playing" or "fighting". We thought they were the same bird.
I usually think that long and little head (like a pigeon) is a pernis head. If it was, they were a booted and a pernis together. If you think this is a booted too, I have to study a little bit more.
That was the other option we thought. But, those two pictures and this one where taken in the same minute. No other raptors flying; only two birds flying together and "playing" or "fighting". We thought they were the same bird.
I usually think that long and little head (like a pigeon) is a pernis head. If it was, they were a booted and a pernis together. If you think this is a booted too, I have to study a little bit more.
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Black Wheatear
Bowed but not broken, yet!
I didn't think the first photos were clear-cut Booted, look at underwing pattern and exposed tarsus. My only concern was lack of any clear barring to the tail, but interested to know why folk would dismiss Juv. Bonelli's?
Peter
halftwo
Wird Batcher
Sorry Steve (Must update my terminology!)
halftwo
Wird Batcher
Would you not expect to be able to see the faint barring on the tail of juv Bonelli's?
The other thing is the nicely translucent inner primaries - which Forsmann mentions.
shorebirder
Well-known member
Latest picture also Booted Eagle, IMHO. First picture typical booted, rather Black Kite like at times and never looking like a large Eagle in this pose. Second picture more like Bonelli's but as stated this is the same bird as pic 1. I have nearly been caught out by Booted Eagle hanging in the wind as in second pic. Soon as they bank off and start to glide they look much smaller and slighter. Bonelli's is a lagre bird often looking more like large honey Buzzard in shape when adult than Booted Eagle. Plumage wise juv Bonelli's and dark Phase (morph!!) Booted are quiet similar but Bonelli's more contrasting and paler below.
John Cantelo
Well-known member
I often find 'frozen' photographic images a damn sight harder to ID than the birds themselves! I can see why both dark morph Booted and juv Bonelli's have been suggested. However, close inspection of the second photo appears to show a white 'landing light' at the base of the wing; unless this is an illusion, it would confirm that it's a Booted,
phil baber
Clipped Wing
Those white translucent inner primaries, forming a distinct zone, are a good feature on dark morph Booted. Booted also is quite a small eagle.
In addition to the features already mentioned:
-juv. Bonelli's Eagle has finer and more distinct bars on the remiges
-the dark band across the wing is much narrower on a juv. Bonelli's Eagle
-the body is paler on a juv. Bonelli's Eagle
-strictly speaking the bird is older than juvenile (at least first summer), as it is moulting (the third outermost primary is missing on both wings)
Here's a juv. Bonelli's Eagle for comparison:
http://www.tarsiger.com/gallery/index.php?pic_id=Jniemi1143754605&lang=fin
Valéry Schollaert
Respect animals, don't eat or wear their body or s
Hi all,
No doubt about it: it's a (dark) Booted Eagle. Square-cut middle-size tail, fairly narrow wing like a Black Kite, pale inner primaries, dark with paler tail... typical Booted.
Cheers
No doubt about it: it's a (dark) Booted Eagle. Square-cut middle-size tail, fairly narrow wing like a Black Kite, pale inner primaries, dark with paler tail... typical Booted.
Cheers
phil baber
Clipped Wing
All the Booteds i've seen in Poland have been just like this bird. All dark morphs.
