Olive-tree Warbler? Bulgaria (1 Viewer)

Scridifer

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• Sep 30, 2017

• #1

My friend took these photos by the Aheloy river in Bulgaria on July 1st. I thought Hippolais olivetorum but not having heard it or seen it to get an idea of size thought I would get confirmation!

Thanks as always,

Chris

 

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Richard Prior

Halfway up an Alp

• Sep 30, 2017

• #2

Looks more like Eastern Olivaceous to me Chris.

 

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Julian Perry

Active member

• Sep 30, 2017

• #3

Very nice photos. Eastern Olivaceous for me as well based on the leg-colour and shorter length primary projection.

 

Scridifer

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• Sep 30, 2017

• #4

Many thanks Richard and Julian!

Chris

 

Brian J Small

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• Sep 30, 2017

• #5

For me it is a worn adult Olive-tree Warbler. Huge bill for starters; the primary projection affected by wear; everything else is fine.

Here's another worn adult
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/f1/dc/eb/f1dceb61aa8f72e3537594d0e8026efa--olive-tree-olives.jpg

Brian

 

Richard Prior

Halfway up an Alp

• Sep 30, 2017

• #6

It looked brown and shortish pp on my phone screen when I commented before, I can see better now I'm looking at it on a proper screen (my feeble excuse), Brian is right of course.

 

lou salomon

the birdonist

• Sep 30, 2017

• #7

Brian J Small said:

the primary projection affected by wear;

Brian

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that would be new to me: if primaries are not broken pp doesn't change by wear? and in this case it is really short for the very long-winged olive-tree warbler! looks like an eastern ollie to me as well...

 

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smiths

Well-known member

• Sep 30, 2017

• #8

I do not follow either Brian.
For instance, you can see the outermost primary in the second photo, and it clearly projects beyond the primary coverts, which would be odd for Olive-tree.

 

Brian J Small

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• Sep 30, 2017

• #9

I am as guilty as Richard here. Looking on my phone and commenting.

The reality here is that now I am on my home computer I can see that p1 is longer than p covs and the bird is therefore not Olive-tree. The p projection is long - 75% or more (on Olive-tree it is 75-100%) - and the bill is large.

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Scridifer

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• Sep 30, 2017

• #10

Thanks all, your comments much appreciated!

Chris

 

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P.Sunesen

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• Sep 30, 2017

• #11

Richard Prior said:

It looked brown and shortish pp on my phone screen when I commented before, I can see better now I'm looking at it on a proper screen (my feeble excuse), Brian is right of course.

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As a matter of fact he was looking at a phone too.....

 

KenM

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• Sep 30, 2017

• #12

FWIW Chris...excellent shots showing all the salient points...even on my phone. :t:

 

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etudiant

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• Oct 1, 2017

• #13

Brian J Small said:

I am as guilty as Richard here. Looking on my phone and commenting.

The reality here is that now I am on my home computer I can see that p1 is longer than p covs and the bird is therefore not Olive-tree. The p projection is long - 75% or more (on Olive-tree it is 75-100%) - and the bill is large.

B

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Baffling.

"P1 is longer than p covs and the bird is therefore not Olive-tree.
The p projection is long - 75% or more (on Olive-tree is is 75-100%) - and the bill is large."

Please help me understand this. Is it an Olive Tree Warbler or is it not, and why?

 

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