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Old Tuesday 6th January 2009, 11:38   #1
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Buzzard - St.Ives

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Just back from a weekend family get-together in St.Ives. Wonderful coincidence as allowed me to go see the Snowy Owl. Anyway ...

... I saw the attached in the hotel grounds and had thought, without checking, was a Common Buzzard. I see this morning that a Rough-Legged Buzzard is in the area. Could this be one?

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Old Tuesday 6th January 2009, 11:51   #2
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Afraid not, John, Common Buzzard.

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Old Tuesday 6th January 2009, 11:56   #3
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Sorry, but it's a Common Buzzard.
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Old Tuesday 6th January 2009, 12:06   #4
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Hi all,
Just back from a weekend family get-together in St.Ives. Wonderful coincidence as allowed me to go see the Snowy Owl. Anyway ...

... I saw the attached in the hotel grounds and had thought, without checking, was a Common Buzzard. I see this morning that a Rough-Legged Buzzard is in the area. Could this be one?

Cheers
John
Hope you didn't get too close to the Snowy Owl
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Old Tuesday 6th January 2009, 12:08   #5
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Sorry, but it's a Common Buzzard.
Thanks guys. I didn't have much cofidence in it being Rough-Legged.

Can I ask one other question. Is attached Rock or Meadow Pipit? Seen in St.Ives.

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Old Tuesday 6th January 2009, 12:17   #6
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Hope you didn't get too close to the Snowy Owl
I'll answer the question with a picture, Paul. Owl was just below crest on opposite hillside. Everyone beautifully behaved in the 60mins I was there on Sunday. Was no need to get any closer as long distance views were great.

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Old Tuesday 6th January 2009, 12:29   #7
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Meadow pipit!... Rock pipits are dirtier looking with dark legs!
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Old Tuesday 6th January 2009, 12:34   #8
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I'll answer the question with a picture, Paul. Owl was just below crest on opposite hillside. Everyone beautifully behaved in the 60mins I was there on Sunday. Was no need to get any closer as long distance views were great.

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Thanks John looks very civilised. Where was the bloke with the camera getting all the grief on the other thread? Had he gone to borrow a helicopter to get a closer view?
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Old Tuesday 6th January 2009, 13:25   #9
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I'll answer the question with a picture, Paul. Owl was just below crest on opposite hillside. Everyone beautifully behaved in the 60mins I was there on Sunday. Was no need to get any closer as long distance views were great.

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Good to see some distance there John! (think the guy had snuck off by then Paul )

Agree with the IDs
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Good to see some distance there John! (think the guy had snuck off by then Paul )

Agree with the IDs
Many thanks on ID. I believe all the hassles with the photographer were on Saturday - I was there Sunday.

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I see a rock pipit rather than a meadow, very dark head, next to no supercilium and a long beak, also the legs aren't anywhere near as bright as what I'd expect on a meadow pipit. Admittedly it's well-marked on the belly.
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Old Tuesday 6th January 2009, 16:16   #12
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Old Tuesday 6th January 2009, 16:45   #13
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I see a rock pipit rather than a meadow, very dark head, next to no supercilium and a long beak, also the legs aren't anywhere near as bright as what I'd expect on a meadow pipit. Admittedly it's well-marked on the belly.
Think you could be right Nick. I looked at this rather quickly having my mind on Snowy Owls! - and also took location to be London without reading the original post! Think belly/upper breast marks look OK for Rock - rather thick continuous streaks on upper breast and head darked/unmarked as you say. Not sure how reliable pic is on leg colour though but a good call I reckon!
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Certainly is a Rock Pipit!
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I'm going off to central London for a family get together next weekend ..... can someone please arrange for a genuinely wild Snowy Owl to be on hand for me too?
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I'm going off to central London for a family get together next weekend ..... can someone please arrange for a genuinely wild Snowy Owl to be on hand for me too?
I know the tree (courtesy of Des McKenzie) in which a Tawny Owl roosts in Kensington Gardens. Will that do, John?

Thanks everyone for additional comments on Pipit.

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I'm going off to central London for a family get together next weekend ..... can someone please arrange for a genuinely wild Snowy Owl to be on hand for me too?
... the first post was requesting a Buzzard ID and said they'd just got back from seeing the SO .... I didn't read the Pipit post at all and just barely read the first one ie. 'got as far as 'just got back from seeing SO'

Perhaps you'll see a sillouhette of one flying through the night sky - or maybe not raptors aren't easy to ID from sillouhettes I've found - but it definitely wasn't amongst this lot though http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=129721

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