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Blue flycatcher from Vietnam (1 Viewer)

orientaldkf

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Hi all, saw this blue flycatcher in Nam Cat Tien National Park in South Vietnam. Wondering if it could be a Pale Blue/Hainan Blue/White-tailed Flycatcher? Thanks for the help.
 

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Its a male Cuckooshrike, either an Indochinese (resident) or a Black-winged (winters) but the images are very poor quality making assessment less than straightforward. The white tips to the underside of the tail appear quite extensive, virtually overlapping, which would suggest Indochinese but I am by no means certain. Black-winged typically shows clear black between the white tips but the angle is making it difficult to assess with certainty.

Grahame
 
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Both of you are right, it's a cuckooshrike and seems to be an Indochinese. Will try to check other photos for better angles. The tail did throw me off but somehow I was fixated on it being a flycatcher.
 
First of all, I know HBW states that Black-winged is a non-breeding visitor to Cat Tien, but I saw it there in late May last year. I'll ask my Vietnamese birding friend if he's seen it in the breeding season.

There are some images on the net of Black-winged with extensive white tips to the undertail feathers, e.g. this one: https://www.hbw.com/ibc/photo/black...alage-melaschistos/black-winged-cuckoo-shrike. However, as Grahame mentioned, the tips don't seem to overlap on this species.

Overall I would slightly favour Indochinese but am not sure.
 
Can you say why?
male black winged cuckooshrike have blackish wings(include secondaries) forming more contrasty to upperparts especially the rump
this bird has grey wing,secondaries with broad grey edges and more white on tips of rectrices
 
male black winged cuckooshrike have blackish wings(include secondaries) forming more contrasty to upperparts especially the rump

I think this would depend on the lighting in the image.
 
Unfortunately I don't have much better angles, bird was rather high up in the tree. Would be interested to know if black-winged can be found there during the breeding season.
 
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