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Baird's Sandpiper or not? (1 Viewer)

Sure looks like a Baird's Sandpiper with those wings projecting beyond the tail, scalloped back pattern, straight bill, and rather "flat", elongated appearance.
 
I feel this is a juvenile red knot. Described as 3-4 cm bigger than kentish plover, bill looks too thick for Baird's and the pattern of the scalloping looks wrong.

Rob
 
Hello all,

the pale legs, the scaly upperparts and the rather distinct closed breast band lead me to the conclusion:

juv. Temminck's Stint.

Kind regards
Gerald
 
i-Birder said:
Hello all,

the pale legs, the scaly upperparts and the rather distinct closed breast band lead me to the conclusion:

juv. Temminck's Stint.

Kind regards
Gerald
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I agree entirely: the exact pattern of the coverts differs from that shown by juvenile Baird's, that species having a more solidly dark feather with a pale fringe. The primary projection itself is not actually all that long: rather, it is the rear as a whole that is attenuated, which would fit well with Temminck's Stint also. Red Knot would look quite different structurally also.
Regards,
Harry
 
No experience with stints, but it doesn't look like a Baird's to me. In addition to points noted above, they usually show crossed primaries, which are absent here; also looks darker and grayer, esp. around the face, than a typical Baird's.

Best,
Jim
 
Another vote for Temminck's Stint. Not seen a Baird's for years and don't remember them much but the bird looks like a typical temminck's
 
Sorry to keep banging on about this as I agree it looks like a Temminck's, but what are we to make of the observer stating that it was 3-4cm longer than a KP and that a stint could definitely be ruled out?
If we conclude that all the feathers are discoloured in some way, then structurally it looks like a sharp-tailed sand, which would fit the reported size.

Rob
 
edenwatcher said:
Sorry to keep banging on about this as I agree it looks like a Temminck's, but what are we to make of the observer stating that it was 3-4cm longer than a KP and that a stint could definitely be ruled out?
If we conclude that all the feathers are discoloured in some way, then structurally it looks like a sharp-tailed sand, which would fit the reported size.

Rob
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observer error, the bird in the photo is a temminck's stint. In the field a KP looks shorter than a TS due to the way it holds its body.
 
Oops, yes of course Juvie Temmink's Stint. I have very little experience with that species, forgot about the scalloping on the back shown by juveniles, and figure the legs looked light-colored because of the lighting and due to the notes stating they were gray. Bad call on my part!
 
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