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Old Wednesday 11th September 2019, 01:06   #76
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...... That is one thing that is nice about the BD it has a magnesium frame which is getting rare at the under $500.00 price point.. I will take a magnesium frame any day over polymer I don't care what the plastic nuts have to say.
Why do you say that Dennis?

I prefer materials sophistication, performance (as in material properties - strength, stiffness, hygroscopicity, density, etc) , and lightness.

If it was Magnesium Metal Matrix then it might be in with a chance, otherwise it's Carbon Fibre Reinforced Plastic all the way for me !

CNRP (Carbon Nanotube Reinforced Polymer) is better and even sexier again !!




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Old Wednesday 11th September 2019, 09:52   #77
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Hello,

I am also firmly in the "anti-plastic" camp.

Plastics and rubber of all types WILL deteriorate over time , although the old formula Bakelite seems to last well.

Metals on the other hand , given a modicum of care will last practically forever , and they also just feel right and proper.

Weight reduction can be overdone.



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I took our youngest to our laboratory and showed him magnesium, it burned extremely well yielding a phantastic amount of light..
The fighter planes of our military and also quite a bit of weaponry consists of "plastic = reinforced carbon fibre" etc. Very strong, durable and in many occasions much better then metal.
The Victory FL's I have seen did not detiorate one bit since the time they were produced despite very intense use.
Prejudice is a very tough phenomenon.
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I took our youngest to our laboratory and showed him magnesium, it burned extremely well yielding a phantastic amount of light..
The fighter planes of our military and also quite a bit of weaponry consists of "plastic = reinforced carbon fibre" etc. Very strong, durable and in many occasions much better then metal.
The Victory FL's I have seen did not detiorate one bit since the time they were produced despite very intense use.
Prejudice is a very tough phenomenon.
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Thank you Gijs - I couldn't have put it in better words!

Which brings us to the interesting question - what about optics with magnesium bodies on aircraft? Magnesium is on the list... only powder, only pure metal or alloys too? So many questions...

https://www.bristolairport.co.uk/~/m...ted-items.ashx

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The cost to make the Fls was not cheap either, Mg is cheaper - why it is used more.

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I pre-ordered the Kowa BDII XD in a 6.5x32 so I will write a small review as soon as I receive them.
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I pre-ordered the Kowa BDII XD in a 6.5x32 so I will write a small review as soon as I receive them.
Awesome! Looking forward to it!
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Awesome! Looking forward to it!
I hope it's the comprehensive DVD case across the loungeroom resolution test, rounded out by viewing the goat across a mountainside !




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6.5X32 is OK, just not enough mag, I am more interested in the 8X32 myself.

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6.5X32 is OK, just not enough mag, I am more interested in the 8X32 myself.

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I had a hard time trying to decide which one to try either the 6.5x32 or the 8x32. The 8x32 has more AFOV so it will probably be more impressive but I already have the SV 8x32 and I don't think there is anyway the Kowa 8x32 is going to be better than the SV. The SV is 5 times as expensive. So I figured I would try the 6.5x32 because it would be a different format and it does have 65 degrees AFOV so we will see. Your probably right in that it doesn't have enough magnification. I think the 8x32 will be the roof version of the Nikon 8x30 EII. Returns are easy.

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I hope it's the comprehensive DVD case across the loungeroom resolution test, rounded out by viewing the goat across a mountainside !




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I said "Small Review". I reserve the totally unbiased high-end objective sophisticated scientific methodology for my "Big Reviews."

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Updated specs? https://t.co/liA8MTEXG0

126m Fov of the 10x42 sounds pretty sweet too - that's 71.8 AFov

Can anyone tell me which way the focuser goes to infinity?






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What are the prices for the 8X32, 8X42 and 10X42. Remember the adage, you really do get what you pay for, so be aware, and don't be disappointed if the performance/craftsmanship is not what was expected.

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Kowa USA rep Paul Kardos says retail will be $399 for 32mm and $449 for 42 mm. Release date of 10/1
Already seeing these prices on sites with pre-orders. He also told me the tariffs are taking a big bite out of profits so prices could go up.
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I hope it's the comprehensive DVD case across the loungeroom resolution test, rounded out by viewing the goat across a mountainside !
You're just envious of our mountain goats. They're amazing, not just how they get around steep slopes, but curious enough for the whole family to come right up and check you out. Which is an odd situation since those little horns look pretty sharp... and also because they get hunted. (Actually that's what they were brought here for, from the Pacific Northwest.)
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I have to straighten something out here. What I use for my famous binocular glare test is Bighorn Sheep not Mountain Goats. They are two different animals. I have seen them both. I saw the Mountain Goats in the northeast entrance to Yellowstone National Park. The Bighorn Sheep are in our Rocky Mountain National Park but we do have Mountain Goats in the state also. They are different but both are incredible rock climbers. I hope that doesn't get your goat Chosun.








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I pre-ordered mine for $380.00 with free shipping and no tax for the Kowa BDII XD 6.5x32.

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I have to straighten something out here. What I use for my famous binocular glare test is Bighorn Sheep not Mountain Goats. They are two different animals. I have seen them both. I saw the Mountain Goats in the northeast entrance to Yellowstone National Park. The Bighorn Sheep are in our Rocky Mountain National Park but we do have Mountain Goats in the state also. They are different but both are incredible rock climbers. I hope that doesn't get your goat Chosun.
If I remember what you previously said correctly, then you used the Bighorn Sheep for the famous glare test, whereas the Mountain Goats were what you used for testing CA. Seeing the pictures of the two that makes sense

PS. you don't have to worry about getting my goat - a Wedge-tailed Eagle already did that !





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Dennis,

Was the order from a US dealer, or UK.

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Some more information on CN of the Kowa 6.5X32, just some more info regarding observations from users.

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Was the order from a US dealer, or UK.

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Minimum IPD is right in the danger zone for me. Kowa lists both sizes at 57mm. I need 56mm to be confident though 57mm might work except for close up.
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Binoculars USA was offering a 5% discount on pre orders but I think it ran out last night. They’re just starting up so I imagine a phone call would get you that discount.
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I just got on Binoculars USAs website. I signed up for their email list and they sent me a 7% discount coupon.
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