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Old Saturday 31st July 2004, 20:17   #51
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Whilst I was there it generally looked plump and horizontal rather than alert.

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cheers, I guess in the field it's prety distinctive then?

good luck to anyone going on spec tomorrow.....
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Old Saturday 31st July 2004, 20:22   #52
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cheers, I guess in the field it's prety distinctive then?

good luck to anyone going on spec tomorrow.....
Tim,

Let me put it like this. When I saw the Fairhaven Ivory Gull I thought it looked like an albino Common Gull, when I watched the Great Knot the word Ruff never entered my mind.

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Old Saturday 31st July 2004, 20:40   #53
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I guess u were pretty then.....

a Great Knot day surely deserves a or two.....
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Old Saturday 31st July 2004, 20:45   #54
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Just for the record I was not casting doubt on the identification of this bird, I was merely suprised when I saw the photo.

My experience of Great Knot in the UK and abroad is limited to books - and I would never have thought that there could be a similarity!

Tim is spot on - the interesting point is the difference between the image captured by a camera and the actual "jizz" of the bird seen. Its a useful lesson when considering "what is this?" type photos on the Forum.
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Old Saturday 31st July 2004, 21:43   #55
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having seen the pix now, i can see why they could be passed over for a Ruff
Methinks you wouldn't confuse them, but given that (according to Bill Oddie) there's people around capable of sending in a report of a Ringed Plover to the BBRC, labelled 'Alpine Swift', well, I guess there'll be some people somewhere who would confuse the two

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Old Saturday 31st July 2004, 22:25   #56
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Does anyone know if its the same bird that was on the Swords Estuary north of Dublin last Sunday but which was nor relocated on Monday?

I'm not sure if photos were posted of that bird.

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Padraig,

The Swords bird was only seen by the finder before it flew off and I believe no pics were obtained.

There has to be a strong possibility it is the same bird.

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Old Saturday 31st July 2004, 23:18   #58
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Methinks you wouldn't confuse them, but given that (according to Bill Oddie) there's people around capable of sending in a report of a Ringed Plover to the BBRC, labelled 'Alpine Swift', well, I guess there'll be some people somewhere who would confuse the two

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The Swords bird was only seen by the finder before it flew off and I believe no pics were obtained.

There has to be a strong possibility it is the same bird.

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I wonder how well known was the person who found it.
A lot hangs on the credibilty of that person.
Alot of searching went on the following day by the sound of it so must have been a strong possibility of being authentic.

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Whether or not they're the same bird, the fact that the Irish one was found just before the English one surely lends credibility, whoever the observer was. No one could have predicted that.
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surely the same....?
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Surely, Tim. One is amazing enough; two would be cosmically mind-mangling.
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surely the same....?
Unless there has been a peculiar weather situation that has caused several to fly this way . . . we'll never know!

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Maybe they hit a bit ruff weather...
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I think it is likely to be the same bird. But I can think of parallels. American Coot was equally rare before last winter then three turned up.

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True, Stephen, but there's no evidence that the three arrived in tandem. They turned up at different times: 30 Nov, 25 Jan and 17 Feb.
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True, Stephen, but there's no evidence that the three arrived in tandem. They turned up at different times: 30 Nov, 25 Jan and 17 Feb.
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They were FOUND on those days

I reckon they were released on the same day by the same guy releasing these Great Knots and just wandered a bit until settling and eventually being found.

Unless they were genuine vagrants of course... and how likely is that???
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Who says they wandered? Probably there all the time: most people only look at Coots as a last resort!
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