UK raptor (1 Viewer)

Rotherbirder said:

I clearly must be looking at a different image to everyone else!?

RB

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No RB!....it’s all speculation regarding definitive ID, I wouldn’t put my house on any of them!

Deb Burhinus said:

my impression is of a corvid too - proportionately short tail, heavy chest, very ‘loose’ wing shape as can be seen in the video below or in the 2nd link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7bZP93-fEU

http://www.jakes-bones.com/2012/05/red-kite-that-was-mobbed-by-crow.html

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Rotherbirder said:

I clearly must be looking at a different image to everyone else!?

RB

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KenM said:

No RB!....it’s all speculation regarding definitive ID, I wouldn’t put my house on any of them!

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Yes categoric ID may be beyond anyone I also totally agree, my gut said Crow, so thought I would throw it out there.

I imagined something similar to this image (borrowed from the web, not mine), foreshortened, so with a visually more narrow closed wing giving the impression of a BoP, but nicely showing the looseness on the other wing, which drew me more to a Corvid, our’s is looser still.

Deb’s video link is pretty good at showing the varied shapes, and in slow motion, at times, I almost get the shape of our bird.

ryckfour said:

Didn’t mean my post to sound like a criticism - I was simply highlighting the difficulties of looking at single shots compared to a moving bird.

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No offence taken!